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I usually find the articles in the industry mags unexciting, they're often little more than dressed-up ads or vanity pieces written by professional puff writers with a tenuous grasp on the subject. But this month's xhHt is different. The "inside the SX10" article is great, with lots of technical details, and the Scott Martin interview is also worthwhile reading, at least for CA folks. The issue is a refreshing change from the usual.


 
Posted : July 5, 2017 5:59 pm
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Thanks, Jim. I wasn't sure how the interview was going to go, but was pleasantly surprised with the outcome. Gavin works really hard to assemble each issue with a wide variety of current and interesting articles. I hope folks are signed up to get it in email and hardcopy.

Scott


 
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Here is a link to subscribe: https://online.icnfull.com/fdm/?t=352836e698c7i42d9c82f3n248460857104 😎


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 5:59 am
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I definitely enjoyed the SX10 article, it's a great insight into how much time and effort goes into the development of an instrument like that. I've been fortunate enough to use one a few times and it's a real pleasure.


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 6:59 am
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Very good article. I honestly had no idea on the impact Trimble had on the development of the modern robotic total station and the history of the development of the EDM was fascninating. Kudos.


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 7:58 am

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Extraordinary, in-depth article... especially the on-line version!!!


The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.

 
Posted : July 6, 2017 8:16 am
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C.Tompkins, post: 435517, member: 975 wrote: the history of the development of the EDM was fascinating

To say the least...

I had know idea it had been 100 years in the making.

When I started in 1975, the company had just purchased an HP3800; I thought it was the "latest" technology.


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 8:59 am
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Great article. Actually the whole magazine was much better.

The SX10 is a remarkable instrument, way out of my league, but fantastic still the same. I wonder what the price is.

Link to SX10 video:

[MEDIA=youtube]FfYUReTLrsM[/MEDIA]


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 9:26 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 435531, member: 379 wrote: [USER=556]@gschrock[/USER]

Great article. Actually the whole magazine was much better.

The SX10 is a remarkable instrument, way out of my league, but fantastic still the same. I wonder what the price is.

Link to SX10 video:

[MEDIA=youtube]FfYUReTLrsM[/MEDIA]

It is actually not bad. I have heard somewhere in the 55-60k price range, which when you think about it...really isn't that much more expensive than a regular robot. But check with a dealer. I am spouting off numbers from a chain of surveyor's conversations.


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 9:31 am
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I'm not aware of the cost but we have one here and it really is impressive to operate and the data is fairly straight-forward when processing through TBC.


T. Nelson - SAM

 
Posted : July 6, 2017 9:34 am

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If you don't have TBC and you don't skimp on anything that $55 - $60K number is accurate. You need a very good tripod - I went with Tri-Max - and a Yuma II (Trimble Tablet), and you'll want the Scanning module for TBC, plus TBC Advanced. By comparison a full blown S7 system is probably in the low to mid $40s.


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 9:42 am
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If you don't have a robot I've seen very compelling numbers showing that it will pay for itself in as little as a year if you have the right kind of work. The SX10 isn't an instrument you want to drag through the woods on a boundary.


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 9:44 am
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Lee D, post: 435541, member: 7971 wrote: If you don't have TBC and you don't skimp on anything that $55 - $60K number is accurate. You need a very good tripod - I went with Tri-Max - and a Yuma II (Trimble Tablet), and you'll want the Scanning module for TBC, plus TBC Advanced. By comparison a full blown S7 system is probably in the low to mid $40s.

Good point! I forgot that part. The scanning module for TBC is key.


T. Nelson - SAM

 
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C.Tompkins, post: 435533, member: 975 wrote: It is actually not bad. I have heard somewhere in the 55-60k price range, which when you think about it...really isn't that much more expensive than a regular robot. But check with a dealer. I am spouting off numbers from a chain of surveyor's conversations.

Four years from now it will be half that or less. Of course there will be a better replacement by then. Technology is progressing at lightning speed with no end in sight. 😎


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 9:56 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 435548, member: 379 wrote: Four years from now it will be half that or less.

Based on my 22 years in sales/support, the last 9 of them with a Trimble dealer, this is decidedly NOT the case. It would be nice if it was, but after spending 10 years building a platform from the ground up there won't be any significant changes other than firmware for the foreseeable future. The S6 was released in 2005, and although I'm sure they're very different on the inside, today's S7 is essentially the same instrument and if anything the price has gone up.


 
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Lead, follow, or; get out of the way...


 
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In my first sentence in the post I should have mentioned "used". Thanks for the clarification. 😎


 
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The drivers in Florida usually treat all traffic signs as "Suggestions". 😉


 
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RADAR, post: 435528, member: 413 wrote: To say the least...

I had know idea it had been 100 years in the making.

When I started in 1975, the company had just purchased an HP3800; I thought it was the "latest" technology.

In 1975 HP already had the HP 3810A "Total Station" out, which followed the previous model, the HP 3805, which came out in 1974 or maybe late 1973.


 
Posted : July 6, 2017 11:15 am