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DEREK G. GRAHAM OLS OLIP
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Colleagues all-

This is an "equipment comfortable" serious question, not a "human comfortable" one.

What experience do you have working with an Allegro and a Z-Max base and rover (or any other GPS equipment) in raining conditions ?

{Our base station (touch wood) has been up in all weather for 5 years+ and with zero maintenance.}

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Derek


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 2:58 pm
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Derek,

never had any issues that related to the rainy weather conditions with our Trimble R6-2 and TSC2 dc's. (bluetooth connections - no cables)

greetz from Belgium,
Christof.


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 3:42 pm
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Christ-

First, thank you.

Second, You are a quantum leap ahead of us here at DGG Ltd. in your mathematics and professional measurement techniques !

Third, we do have the luxury of blue tooth between the data collector (Allegro) and the Rover.

It is the water getting into the electrical wire radio connections that I'm concerned about.

Is it a stupid question to ask if one was to put a thin plastic bag over the field base and rover stations that we would get poor or distorted readings ?

Cheers,

Derek

PS

Today, for the first time we were out doing garden work and fixing the New Zealand style high tensile electric fence without a coat !

Spring has finally sprung here at North Aboyne Farm !!!


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 3:56 pm
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I would bag a zmax base, while nominally waterproof, they are old and the connectors on the battery will suffer with a long exposure.

I use a 10 gal, 10 mil thick bag over the entire device and tripod.

On the rover I sometimes bag the coffee cup part, just in case.

Allegro should be fine.

M


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 3:57 pm
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Mark-

Thank you too.

I'm not certain what you mean by the "coffee cup part" .

Have to leave to do stuff in the barn but will pick any of the answers up on my BB.

Cheers,

Derek


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 4:03 pm

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We have used our Trimble R8's in the rain, but take the (probably unneeded) precaution of putting a cheap shower cap over them. No problems.


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 4:27 pm
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I Always Though The Z-Max Could Dispense Coffee

The receiver looks appropriate to the task. Actually more like a cappuccino machine.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 5:44 pm
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>if one was to put a thin plastic bag over the field base and rover stations that we would get poor or distorted readings ?

Put a sample of the type of bag you have in mind in a microwave oven with a cup of water. When the water boils, see if the bag got hot. If not, then it should have negligible effect on the GPS signals, which are of the same order of magnitude wavelength as the microwave. If the bag got hot, then it was soaking up microwave radiation and will attenuate GPS signals.


 
Posted : May 11, 2014 7:37 pm
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Too much rain makes the touch screen of a TSC3 unusable


 
Posted : May 12, 2014 1:28 am
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I always thought the part in the middle of the pole looked like a coffee mug. It has a coffee mug handle, a hole in the top (if you unscrew the antenna) and will sit flat on a table. Perhaps a BIG, expensive, blue and gray coffee cup.

When the ZMax came out (2004), I thought they were pretty cool. I can remember how much faster they would fix than a Z-Xtreme. The battery life was amazing, the SD card was nifty. And they beat a backpack. Of course I was a young man then.

Of course when you compare to any of the current devices (like an SP80), everything sucks. I suppose I should not even try to compare technologies that are a decade different. (My laptop 10 years ago was a piece of junk compared to my new one, right?)

If anyone gives you a hard time about your ZMax, ask them what receiver they were using in 2004. I suspect the performance was a shadow of the ZMax.

My future grand kids would be hauling a ZMax around if they could only find a source for recelled batteries.


 
Posted : May 12, 2014 9:34 am

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Thank you all !

Cheers,

Derek


 
Posted : May 12, 2014 4:00 pm
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Mark-

Art Dias http://batteryrevival.com/ seems to be able to battery anything for us!

Cheers

Derek


 
Posted : May 12, 2014 4:36 pm