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(@john-macolini)
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Posted : February 28, 2014 5:06 am
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I disagree with alot of this

No, Brian, the half a foot is not the real issue here. The 20' and the 2' feet are. I have gone to jobs, where it called for the fence, but the fence was LONG GONE, except traces at one end, and it left speculation for the rest of it. it leaves a latent ambiguity, that COULD turn up, if some surveyor actually had the numbers, like the original post has. And, I do some cackamamie thing, "Best I can do". And, if they don't have the numbers, well, we now have LOST the line. Period. Not professional.

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Posted : February 28, 2014 8:33 am
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here is my take, show the fence on your survey but do not include it in your description. The line is monumented on each end and that is called for in the deed with reference to your survey.

 
Posted : February 28, 2014 8:58 am
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I disagree with alot of this

> No, Brian, the half a foot is not the real issue here. The 20' and the 2' feet are. I have gone to jobs, where it called for the fence, but the fence was LONG GONE, except traces at one end, and it left speculation for the rest of it. it leaves a latent ambiguity, that COULD turn up, if some surveyor actually had the numbers, like the original post has. And, I do some cackamamie thing, "Best I can do". And, if they don't have the numbers, well, we now have LOST the line. Period. Not professional.
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> N

I must be missing something here. The fence is the monument, and you calc a B-D, or a few B-D, so that the fence meanders within a small amount along the line(s). If the fence gets removed at a later date, then you reproduce the line in the same way that you would if someone pulled a few of your re-bars.

 
Posted : February 28, 2014 8:59 am
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I disagree with alot of this

> I must be missing something here. The fence is the monument, and you calc a B-D, or a few B-D, so that the fence meanders within a small amount along the line(s). If the fence gets removed at a later date, then you reproduce the line in the same way that you would if someone pulled a few of your re-bars.

That's what I'm having trouble understanding. Which is more likely to disappear in its entirety, 2 pieces of rebar (one at each end) or 3/4 mile of fence line?

Either way it doesn't matter, if they (rebars and 3/4 mile of fence) disappear (both unlikely without the landowners knowledge) and their former position is not obtainable using whatever physical and/or parol evidence may or may not remain, the record that may be used to re-locate the line upon the ground (last resort) is available for BOTH.

I guess I'm missing something..........

 
Posted : February 28, 2014 10:02 am
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I disagree with alot of this

If you do not show the actual location of the fence, but use one brg and dist (an average of the fence crooks) and the fence has crooks, like 1' 2' 10' etc, then you leave a mess.
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Posted : February 28, 2014 3:09 pm
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Yikes John; better reread ME court decisions. Unless the wall is called for in the deed, it is an accessory pointing to the original corners. Should not be an angle point every 300 feet or so. But maybe I misinterpret your meaning.

 
Posted : February 28, 2014 3:30 pm
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