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Why are so many 1/4 miles 1316.25'?

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:good: 😀

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 1:38 pm
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My first reaction is that they had a chain that was poorly repaired (like a link replaced); or a chain that was built with slightly different-sized links; or maybe one of the crew members held his end of the chain consistently on the wrong spot. I have a couple of old chains and I am not sure exactly where I would hold the plumb bob, or drop my chaining pin from.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 1:53 pm
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> Perhaps he is referring to Nate's comment in this [msg=91575]old thread[/msg]?
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> I took that comment to have picked an arbitrary number different from 1320, and not to say that there were a lot with that particular non-ideal value.

That would be the very one!

Unlike you, though I thought: "Hmmm. There's a lesson in there! What is the significance of precisely that number? It's got to be some multiple of a Chain, a rod a link; maybe some Vara transformation"
Silly me. I never suspected Nate just made up a number! I do tend to over think things a lot. I'm fascinated by all the replies though. Those "instructions to Surveyors" or whatever they're called are very very interesting.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 2:30 pm
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> I am not sure exactly where I would hold the plumb bob, or drop my chaining pin from

Well, get them out and measure them against your best modern method. Gotta keep your equipment in calibration. 😛

The ones I've seen used, which isn't many, were intended to measure from extreme end of handle to end of handle.

Wear was a significant issue for a working chain, as well as stretching if it snagged while being carried. With almost 600 wearing surfaces in a typical 4-pole chain a couple thousandths of an inch per surface becomes 0.1 ft per chain, or 1:660, almost the whole error budget for the mid-1800's. That's why the instructions came to require the deputy to have two chains, and compare the working one against his standard chain that was not otherwise used.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 6:53 pm
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After thinking about this overnite...perhaps the equipment wasn't as much to blame as the "random and true" method of surveying. They ran a random line between two monuments and then corrected their lines based on their mis-tie. Unlike modern surveys, they didn't leave accurate traverse points behind to correct from; just a temporary post at the half-way point. This point was then corrected for both line and distance.

I've seen mis-ties along section boundaries recorded from 20-150 links (13.2'-99').

What do you guys think?

 
Posted : December 12, 2014 7:23 am
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:good:

Good post. I think I'll pull out the chain and measure the last link distance. IT should be easy to see where on the handle they intended to take the measurement from. I just hadn't thought about it much until this thread.

 
Posted : December 12, 2014 7:46 am
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