Dave Karoly, post: 336934, member: 94 wrote: ...s. Think about it, some Surveyor 100 years from now may not know what an I.P. was....
Plenty of times the initialism "IP" turns out to mean "Iron Pin" on old maps. That is what IP means in Oklahoma and British Columbia today.
Norman Oklahoma, post: 336936, member: 9981 wrote: Plenty of times the initialism "IP" turns out to mean "Iron Pin" on old maps. That is what IP means in Oklahoma and British Columbia today.
After following the careers of several surveyors that wrote IP and/or Iron Pin, most any object made of iron could have been set.
They usually set whatever iron object that was in the truck or laying around or a real good deal at the scrap yard. It could have been anything from a 30d Nail to a 3/4in rod or pipe.
AT least they set something with their color of flag and style of regular use and guard stake that also helped to identify the surveyor.
What bothers me most is when something is called for and it is not there and it has never been there.
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foggyidea, post: 336687, member: 155 wrote: Some towns do have rather stringent requirements for plan submission, including some pretty stupid ones such as this: I submitted a Subdivision plan and got a note back that a Legend was required. I called the town planner and asked what they would want in a legend since there wasn't anything that wasn't labeled and a legend wasn't necessary. I was told that I would have to request a waiver from the requirement that a legend be shown on the plan. What?
I have a couple of thoughts on fixing this. Draw a circle that has a label by it such as Found 1/2" dia. rebar, then put under it the same words over (Found 1/2" dia. rebar), another line labeled "property line" then under it rewrite "property line". etc. etc.
Another idea might be insert a scanned image/picture of your own face with your name "foggyidea" under it, and label it "legend".
There I hope I helped. :snarky:
Dave Karoly, post: 336931, member: 94 wrote: I have one R/S in San Joaquin County. The symbol conventions are different from Sacramento County, primarily an open circle in Sac is a dimension point and in SJ it's a set monument. The map checker asked me to conform to local drafting practice so I did. Reading forum comments over the years I guess I'm supposed to be a hard-ass and tell map checkers to pound sand on non required stuff but I'm used to working in lots of counties so formatting requests just don't bother me.
I think I know that guy that checks maps in SJ County. He's a real stickler for detail! hehehe.
I absolutely appreciate having my maps checked by others that aren't sitting here in my office. I have learned a lot over the years, not only for procedure, but also in presentation. And it always helps to have a set of eyes that haven't ever seen the survey before go over the map. Those eyes catch a lot of silly mistakes.
One thing that can make all the difference between a positive map review and a nightmare is the attitude of the map-checker AND the surveyor submitting the map. Egoes can get in the way. Long-standing preferences become "the standard" in the minds of people. It is easy to take offense at a comment or reply. It is harder to step back, take a moment, and then respond in a professional manner. But that second course will get a lot better results.
Several months ago I had a subdivision map in a city (that shall remain unnamed). The surveyor that was contracted by this city to check their maps made a lot of helpful and insightful comments on my map. And once I had gotten these comments, I drafted a letter asking for some clarification on a couple of his comments and also explaining why I had done some of the things that he had questioned.
My boss got a phone call from this survey right after he got my letter. And apparently the first words out of that guys mouth were "Has Syd ever recorded a map in his life?" He then proceeded to rant about the map for about 10 minutes on the phone to my boss. Fortunately, my boss passed this off as "just a crotchety old surveyor". But I did tell my boss that I would leave all future correspondence with this individual to him.