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(@boris-becker)
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i am new to Smartworks and I was wondering if some of you guys have a solution on how to stakeout a DTM vertical offset in percentage...

Thanks in advance

 
Posted : March 24, 2017 11:37 am
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Don't think there is a way. Question would be percentage of what?? I presume you're trying to judge judging the variable thickness of a layer?

 
Posted : March 24, 2017 1:36 pm
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squowse, post: 420161, member: 7109 wrote: Don't think there is a way. Question would be percentage of what?? I presume you're trying to judge judging the variable thickness of a layer?

Hi,

Thanks for reply.
That's correct, DTM is Design surface/level and percentage would be compaction rate for the thickness.
Criss

 
Posted : March 24, 2017 1:42 pm
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Interesting application but really you would have calc the percentage afterwards with desktop software.
If you were determined to do it in the field eg you have no desktop software -

Survey the cut surface (subgrade) and make a DTM "A" in Viva from the points (not even sure you can do this in all versions of Viva).
Survey the surface after the fill has been spread out and form a DTM "B" in Viva from the points.
Survey the surface after compaction, stake each point to DTM "A" then DTM "B", note the vertical distance to DTM on each - VDA and VDB

Assuming the DTM stakeout reports negative vertical distance when survey pole is above the DTM
Compaction Percentage = VDB/ (VDB-VDA) = (percentage of reduction in thickness)

Or if your layer is of constant thickness just work out the layer thickness that you are looking for after compaction and stake that from the surveyed cut surface DTM "A".

I would recommend desktop software....

Lots of different ways of measuring compaction, the final test would normally be a core, or if the fill cannot be cored - a nuclear density, or a penetrometer.
I assume this is just an interim test.

 
Posted : March 24, 2017 4:30 pm
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squowse, post: 420181, member: 7109 wrote: Interesting application but really you would have calc the percentage afterwards with desktop software.
If you were determined to do it in the field eg you have no desktop software -

Survey the cut surface (subgrade) and make a DTM "A" in Viva from the points (not even sure you can do this in all versions of Viva).
Survey the surface after the fill has been spread out and form a DTM "B" in Viva from the points.
Survey the surface after compaction, stake each point to DTM "A" then DTM "B", note the vertical distance to DTM on each - VDA and VDB

Assuming the DTM stakeout reports negative vertical distance when survey pole is above the DTM
Compaction Percentage = VDB/ (VDB-VDA) = (percentage of reduction in thickness)

Or if your layer is of constant thickness just work out the layer thickness that you are looking for after compaction and stake that from the surveyed cut surface DTM "A".

I would recommend desktop software....

Lots of different ways of measuring compaction, the final test would normally be a core, or if the fill cannot be cored - a nuclear density, or a penetrometer.
I assume this is just an interim test.

Thanks, it usxwhai i was afraid of, loads of additional steps,survey calculations. I guess easiest way will be to do this with c3d. Only think is that to import the DTM surface to my CS10 take Hours.... is maybe a different way to at least do that faster? I usually export the surface to land.xml which I import as DTM to cs10. Is there no other way? Faster one?

 
Posted : March 27, 2017 12:26 pm
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Cristian Kifmann, post: 420488, member: 12599 wrote: Thanks, it usxwhai i was afraid of, loads of additional steps,survey calculations. I guess easiest way will be to do this with c3d. Only think is that to import the DTM surface to my CS10 take Hours.... is maybe a different way to at least do that faster? I usually export the surface to land.xml which I import as DTM to cs10. Is there no other way? Faster one?

Yes for some reason an XML dtm seems to take much longer than a DXF. Try it and see.

 
Posted : March 28, 2017 10:33 pm
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Hi Guys, probably posted?ÿ here already more times: does anyone have a solution to transfer (export) codelists / description keys from C3D to Leica Smartworx? i do not have LGO, infinity seems to be the right software to do this but honestly the license is expensive and apart from the codes i dont think i really need it..... it is deeply frustrating to see there is not a hint of support from Leica. Does someone have a running LGO demo or trial?

 
Posted : December 29, 2017 8:40 pm
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Infinity does not appear to have a way to import description keys from C3D.?ÿ I'm don't have LGO loaded on my laptop but I don't recall a way to import them that way either.

 
Posted : December 30, 2017 9:36 am
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I stand corrected.?ÿ I have not tried it myself, but Infinity has an option to import xml files into the code manager.

 
Posted : January 6, 2018 10:31 am