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Utah Corner Records on State GIS

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(@ridge)
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The Utah GIS (AGRC) is developing a statewide PLSS Corner Record System. It's just being populated and proceedures being created. I think in the long run this is going to be a great resource. Surveyors can register and then enter corner records online.

Anyone can get on the site and download the pdf file for a corner record if it has been submitted.

Go here to check it out:

Utah PLSS Corner Site

I would like to see the same thing happen with all Records of Survey!

 
Posted : May 19, 2011 6:46 pm
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> The Utah GIS (AGRC) is developing a statewide PLSS Corner Record System.

Leon, how will fence corners be handled? Will they be eligible for record or will you be required to only record original evidence of the government survey? Hmmm?

 
Posted : May 19, 2011 9:43 pm
(@kris-morgan)
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That sounds ver cool and is probably a great resource for everyone. That has to be one of the benefits of a recording state. You may not agree with the corner location but at least you get to see wha they held or found for it and reference ties.

Are Utah surveyors pretty good about following the law and actually filing these puppies on every corner or is it hitand miss?

 
Posted : May 20, 2011 12:22 am
(@ridge)
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Hopefully this will encourage better compliance with the corner record statute. Certainly the easy and free access to other records will be a great benefit.

I personally think the GIS is going to be a great resource, surveyors just need to get on board and steer the thing in the right direction.

I got paid from the funding to do about 40 corners last year and will do about 20 this year. It's a work in progress and improvements are being made. You can file any control point you want besides PLSS corners.

So far I've only done existent corners. I probably will do a few obliterated this year. You'd have to lean on me pretty hard to get me to set a PLSS corner by proportion (believe it's lost).

I think we should get all the existent corners and obliterated located first. Then use these to search for others. At some point you are going to have some lost corners.

What I see is surveyors needing to get a survey done for a client. They think they need a section corner. Easiest way to get one is to go the lost route (proportion sometimes from other proportion). I see lost corners being set from previously reset lost corners. Sooner than later someone is going to recover an existent corner in the mix and according to the rules the previously set lost corners are all then thrown into question.

This whole concept is based on the BLM GCDB. So far I haven't seen them turn the crank and update the GCDB corners. I'm sure its quite a project and they will need to sort through all the corner records filed and decide which are worthy of use as existent corners. Since a lot of lines in the GIS are being used (with disclaimers about accuracy) there is probably going to be heck to pay when the crank is turned and updated lines and coordinates appear in the GCDB and statewide GIS. That's how its supposed to work but I suspect the disclaimers have been ignored or misunderstood by many laymen users. Some folks will probably think their boundaries are being moved.

 
Posted : May 20, 2011 9:31 am
(@the-pseudo-ranger)
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We have something similar to that in Florida, LABINS.org is a state run website which has an incredible amount of survey data comined into a GIS-map style data retrieval system. GLO maps/notes, bench marks & control, aerials, CCRs, tide studies, etc ... lots of good stuff there.

 
Posted : May 20, 2011 1:20 pm