USGS Brass Cap

Is the Basis of Bearing listed as "NORTH (USGS Record)" too!

I have seen that several times...

Although...the USGS did a few PLSS Surveys in Utah...

o.O
Loyal

The Basis of Bearing is the line going Northerly to the next USGS Brass Cap (quarter corner). I'm not sure whether it matches the GLO plat or not and can't download it since the BLM is closed this month.

But I'm certain this is NOT a USGS Survey, I've touched/read the posts and caps.

Leon

I didn't think that it was...

I have SEEN "professional" Land Surveyor's PLATS show both USGS "CAPS" and BEARINGS before, where in fact the monuments were GLO. Makes one wonder whether the "surveyor" (in "responsible" charge, was ever on the ground. I have even seen USGS STONES shown on Plats (again GLO).

Of course he will blame it on the CAD-monkey (even if HE IS THE CAD-monkey in reality).

Loyal

Leon

Maybe I should be thrilled he found the right marker even if he didn't report it correctly The real prize is that he didn't set his own section corner a few or a hundred feet distant. At least it's not a Bench Mark. I had a landowner one time proudly take me to a "section corner" nicely capped with a UDOT ROW marker along the highway.

I'm not sure who it is. I have the recorders plat copy and not the official plat but I'll get it and will not rat anybody out here.

Yeah, if the plat has "professional" written all over it and "done with GPS" and other such statements, a careful inspection might be in order.

> Do I need to go back and look for the USGS marker and sort out the difference? Same survey found two other USGS markers.

Okay, so I'm fairly aware of Utah practices. Is there some reason why there aren't any fences shown on any of the maps you've posted? I mean in Utah, if you have a fence, you pretty much have a boundary, right?

Up in the mountains, ain't no fences.

Here is recent fence case that really digs into the law:

Fence not the Boundary - Utah Dec 2012

Really Kent, if you want to understand Utah boundary law YOU MUST study the law and get an understanding. Only then would your sniping carry any weight.

So you can't even get a copy of the plat, that is a problem for me in one state. For another I was lucky a few years ago and obtained a cd of all the plats for the state released at that time. There are some courthouses that keep copies and that's my only option at this time in other states. As far as notes....forget it for now. If I don't have them, I'm might be begging for them from other surveyors.

A 1930 GLO resurvey cap? Then you have it. USGS must be a typo.

I found the same notation on a survey in Utah. Called the guy up and his abbreviation was for "United States Government Survey":-S . He did misidentify the corners by the nomenclature of what the majority of us use, but give him credit that he found the right corner.

Pablo B-)

You need to be careful with the older USGS brass caps on iron posts. Their early directive was to place the bench marks two per township and perferably near the section corners so they could be more easily found.

In some parts of Nebraska the brass caps on pipes were place only a few feet from a pits and mound section corner. Then over time the pits and mound disappeared and Mr. Surveyor comes along and sees a brass capped pipe, but isn't smart enough to know it is a bench mark. In some areas where resurveys were done, the GLO brass cap on pipes section corners looked almost identical except for the stamping on the cap for the USGS bench mark.

Almost 20 years ago, I set about 300 brass caps on an old Army Proving Grounds for photo control for a mapping project. We did static GPS observations on all of them. One of these points fell near the corner of a clear cut. About a year later, a surveyor called me wanting my references on the Section corner. After 2 returned calls, I finally got the monument number from him. I don't think I ever convinced him that it was not a section corner.