Two surveys which one is right? *WITH DISCLAIMER*
I don't know about you guys but if I did a lot survey and drafted it up to present to the RPLS for review and signature I would have shown the evidence of monuments I found (a 4x4 post would not be enough in my opinion) to show why one lot line was an additional foot longer than the subdivision plat calls for.
Cy
Two surveys which one is right? *WITH DISCLAIMER*
We hereby acknowledge that a survey has been provided and reviewed by us.
The X are close to each other but I still don't understand how you go by a fence post? Don't they pull records from the city first? I used google and found many maps with dimensions.
Also this is not going to be used in court, it is for my own information and knowledge.
Two surveys which one is right? *WITH DISCLAIMER*
> I don't know about you guys but if I did a lot survey and drafted it up to present to the RPLS for review and signature I would have shown the evidence of monuments I found (a 4x4 post would not be enough in my opinion) to show why one lot line was an additional foot longer than the subdivision plat calls for.
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> Cy
I definitely agree with you. It looks like the field crew may not have owned a shovel or a Schonstedt.
Carl
Two surveys which one is right? *WITH DISCLAIMER*
> We hereby acknowledge that a survey has been provided and reviewed by us.
Whatever that means.
> The X are close to each other but I still don't understand how you go by a fence post?
Sometimes a fence post IS the corner. It's possible that someone could have pulled out the original iron set and replaced it with a fence post. I have seen it happen before. *HOWEVER* I don't think that has happened in your situation.
>Don't they pull records from the city first? I used google and found many maps with dimensions.
Here in Virginia we are required to research our subject property and all surrounding/adjoining properties for gaps, gores, overlaps, encroachments, etc. *HOWEVER* I don't know if that is the case in Texas. A local Texas RPLS should be able to answer that. Is it possible that one or both of these plats/drawings/sketches are not of public record? And "public record" does not necessarily mean what is online. The records for my county are not available online without a paid subscription, which I do not pay. I live 1.4 miles from my county courthouse. I don't know how things like that are done in Texas, or San Antonio.
> Also this is not going to be used in court, it is for my own information and knowledge.
I will hold you to that in respect to me... 🙂 But, you have some valid concerns for sure.
Two surveys which one is right? *WITH DISCLAIMER*
I think we're looking at a filed subdivision plat here, which ordinarily becomes a simultaneous conveyance. So there won't necessarily be any gaps, gores, overlaps, or many of the conditions that would exist in sequential conveyances. Having said that there are a number of filed subdivision plats that just plain fail on simple geometry.
If you want a good laugh, or a real cussing hair puller (depending on your level of involvement) If you can find it, Sandalwood Sec.1 here in Houston is a mess.
Two surveys which one is right? *WITH DISCLAIMER*
>Sometimes a fence post IS the corner. It's possible that someone could have pulled out the original iron set and replaced it with a fence post. I have seen it happen before. *HOWEVER* I don't think that has happened in your situation.
Exactly. If the fence post checks near center for bearing/distance as checked from multiple directions, I would accept a fence post as a corner and note that the fence post was most likely set directly over the corner monument. However, in this case, the fence posts do not match bearings/distance by 1' or 1.6 feet, and I can see no justification on the survey for holding the post. None.
You have a lot in a plan of lots. Why is the one survey not square? What effect does this have on the adjoining properties? I would have chucked the "out of square" map: It doesn't represent the original intent. Two different side lengths? Front and back not parallel? Bogus info there, buddy.
You have an entire neighborhood to search through and find something that fits the original intent. It's out there; You just have to dig for it.
Since you need a definitive answer, my advice is to call both surveyors and tell them of the problem. Ask them to resolve the problem together. Trying to resolve the problem on a web forum will not work. The solution is on the ground.
I like the first survey. It shows calls and distances to where the corners should be. It also shows the fence posts as they encroach and overlap. The original overall sub-div. plat should reflect this also. The second "survey" and loosely I use that term, is floating in space. It is only tied to the street. The angle to the back corners are off. Regardless if a certain state requires one to tie down a survey to a particular point. It would behoove a man to at least see if he is pushing or pulling either neighbor.
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I like that.....two different surveys by two different surveyors. They should be called to the matt. At least the "second" one should be showing why he disagreed with the first one. Resolution to survey differences should be dealt with early on, so the multiple monumentation doesn't continue ad nauseam.
I would like to thank everyone for there input. I got a hold of both surveyors and sent them both surveys and will let you know the out come.