I do usually switch to semi active for that kind of stuff but for pinnings I use active because I don't want to be waiting 8 seconds for each measurement.
That's...not normal. Tracking mode is about half a second, semi-active/passive about 1.5 seconds, add maybe half a second to each for communication between TS and collector. That was true even for the previous-generation S6/S8 models. Even DR mode is maybe 5 seconds at the outside unless it's going to time out from poor return.
Get that sucker to a dealer, take the controller and show them. Something's not right.
2 different s5 and 1 s7 with a couple different tsc7's and the tsc5 I tried for a little bit...they all took that long. I've spent a good bit of time looking into this and I don't think there is a fix unless it's a software issue that they could come up with an update for.
It only takes a couple seconds if you just use passive mode but then it's likely to get locked onto something else so I'm always using active or semi active mode.
The sx12 shoots fast (passive mode only) but a different crew uses that.
2 different s5 and 1 s7 with a couple different tsc7's and the tsc5 I tried for a little bit...they all took that long. I've spent a good bit of time looking into this and I don't think there is a fix unless it's a software issue that they could come up with an update for.
It only takes a couple seconds if you just use passive mode but then it's likely to get locked onto something else so I'm always using active or semi active mode.
The sx12 shoots fast (passive mode only) but a different crew uses that.
2 different s5 and 1 s7 with a couple different tsc7's and the tsc5 I tried for a little bit...they all took that long. I've spent a good bit of time looking into this and I don't think there is a fix unless it's a software issue that they could come up with an update for.
It only takes a couple seconds if you just use passive mode but then it's likely to get locked onto something else so I'm always using active or semi active mode.
The sx12 shoots fast (passive mode only) but a different crew uses that.
@350rocketmike Something is not right. You are the only person that experiences this delay. If it were normal a lot of us would experience it. I don't know what, but something needs to be changed so that your instruments shoot as quickly as everyone else.
I could be wrong but I'm not convinced. I feel like most guys just aren't as impatient as me and never ran a stopwatch to see how long the shots took.
As I said before this affects 2 s5's, 1 s7, 3 different mt1000 prisms (1 came with each robot), 2 different tsc7's, a tsc5 running them), multiple different versions of access (all 2021-2023). Multiple combinations all get the same result.
I'm curious what version of software anyone else who can confirm they can get a semi active mode measurement in only a couple seconds. Could it be a bad bath of multitrack prisms? A software glitch for the last couple years? All 3 robots? I have no idea what the cause but it affects all our Trimble's running in semi active mode.
I do usually switch to semi active for that kind of stuff but for pinnings I use active because I don't want to be waiting 8 seconds for each measurement.
That's...not normal. Tracking mode is about half a second, semi-active/passive about 1.5 seconds, add maybe half a second to each for communication between TS and collector. That was true even for the previous-generation S6/S8 models. Even DR mode is maybe 5 seconds at the outside unless it's going to time out from poor return.
Get that sucker to a dealer, take the controller and show them. Something's not right.
I believe there is a setting for how many measurements it takes for a shot. It might have been put on like 20 or something.
I messed with that setting many many times. Minimum is 2 observations and you can basically set it to that or anything higher. Set on 2 it takes 8-10 seconds. I tried every setting between that and 8 and even tried a ridiculously high settings and none of them changed it much. Setting it at 100 it still only took about 10 seconds.
@350rocketmike Wow! That really sucks. Might need to go to service then. I've run those S-series guns since 2008 and I've never had one do that except when I'd use "measure distances" and I had it set to 10-15 and shooting 2-3 miles across a lake or down river.
It does suck. Especially coming from a Leica tcrp1203+ that shot in about 1 second on the slowest setting. I don't really know what needs servicing since it affects all the setups I had available to try except the sx12 because it only works with a passive prism. Using passive mode with a peanut prism only takes about 1-2 seconds but most of my work is robotic. I've never had to shoot even close to a mile in the past few years here.
When you say "measure distances" is that a different mode? I don't recall where that is other than maybe a toggle in the measurement settings? I always want to measure distance unless I'm backsighting something angle only (rare).
@350rocketmike Measure Distances is a mode like Measure Topo or Measure Rounds. I don't have a unit available to look at since I'm at an all Leica (unfortunately) shop these days. I recall once in that mode, there was an Options tab at the bottom of the screen that you tapped on and then you could change the amount of measurements per "shot" taken.
When you say "measure distances" is that a different mode?
That would be the "Average Observations" method, which is in the Method dropdown along with angles-only, distance offset, circular object, etc:
Okay thanks. Definitely not what I was using. I'm just shooting in regular old angles and distances. And averaged observations is set to 2 (the minimum) which is less than 5 (the default) but it still takes 8-10 seconds to shoot in semi active mode, no matter what the conditions. I'm always using a bipod so it's not moving, however if I'm not using a bipod and try to get a shot when I'm not staying perfectly plumb it will take longer than 10.
I didn't know how long it was until I used the stopwatch, I just knew it was slow. It wouldn't matter much for boundary survey but construction and took it feels ridiculously slow.