Would anybody have any verbage that they would be willing to share for how to put in their proposal for possible train traffic delays. I usually have this as an assumption when preparing the proposal. I am proposing on a 2 mile topographic survey of existing rail lines and train counts are around 58 per day. I sure appreciate it.
How about...
"Due the high volume of rail traffic within the work zone we anticipate having to clear the 25' obstruction free zone for about 10 minutes out of every 25 minutes to allow for the passage of trains. To ensure that survey personnel remain outside of the 25 foot zone while trains are present the 25 foot limits will be marked on the ground with white paint prior to the commencement of work. Our crew will include a dedicated spotter to watch for trains, as required by railroad safety standards..."
Railroads are all about safety. The don't typically worry much about the money. Pump up the safety and get paid for it.
What is your experience with railroads?
What is your experience with railroads?
Norman Oklahoma, post: 339604, member: 9981 wrote: How about...
"Due the high volume of rail traffic within the work zone we anticipate having to clear the 25' obstruction free zone for about 10 minutes out of every 25 minutes to allow for the passage of trains. To ensure that survey personnel remain outside of the 25 foot zone while trains are present the 25 foot limits will be marked on the ground with white paint prior to the commencement of work. Our crew will include a dedicated spotter to watch for trains, as required by railroad safety standards..."
Railroads are all about safety. The don't typically worry much about the money. Pump up the safety and get paid for it.
Having a spotter wont cut it for most RR's. You will have to have a RR employed flagger. That persons daily rate is probably ridiculously close to your crews daily rate. Are you doing this for the RR or another entity?
We are actually doing this for the RR itself, and they are providing flaggers. I have been charged a few time around $850/day for flagging.
I believe that (RR spotter) depends on just were this particular piece of track is. But, you are right, a lot of time they insist on their own guy and the cost is stupendous. Which makes it seem silly for a surveyor to be justifying a few extra hours on the job to comply with all their safety rules. To say nothing of avoiding getting hit by a train!
We don not have that type of volume on the lines we run, but we do insist on a Railroad flagger at all times when working within the Railroad right-of-way working for us or not. A possible scenario might be to try to set your control 20-25 feet from the rail and work from there. That way you would not be spending a majority of the time setting up and breaking down. Also, try to be on good terms and get along with the flagger they assign to your project, that can go along way.
