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dave-karoly
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nothing is Automatic

I'm assuming Keith is talking about actual valid monuments for the most part.

For example the BLM went out and subdivided a Section in 1970. I'm pretty sure they didn't do a perfect job even if they had all 8 original monuments. Keith's point is those imperfect monuments would hold for the most part.

It doesn't surprise me that BLM has had to admit they made a mistake and they had to correct the mistake by resetting monuments. But 2 or 3 chains is a little more than the width of my thumbnail. If the land is unpatented or otherwise open to correction then it is done.


 
Posted : August 7, 2010 6:49 pm
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Dan when you posted this...

Yes, but I would say it was epic.


 
Posted : August 7, 2010 7:24 pm
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Kinks and gaps...

Bingo.

That's where "it depends" is the answer.

That's where professional judgement comes in.


 
Posted : August 7, 2010 8:23 pm
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nothing is Automatic

Thanks Dave,

What I have posted is easily understood and only those who try and put words into my posts with the clear intention of distorting what I have posted are simply wrong.

For hells sake, no land surveyor in his/her right mind will make some of the statements that have been accredited to me, so take it for what it is worth and think for yourselves.

Acceptance of survey monuments is simply surveying 101.

Again and I have stated it many times, that if all there is to land surveying is running a good instrument and measuring really really good; then you are an excellent expert measurer.

It ain't that hard to figure out and if it was, the BLM Manual would be 10 pages.

Think about that for a minute and a half.

I am outta here for the next couple of days so be careful.

Still no word from the Texas land surveyors on Kent's pulling monuments policy!

It is very noticeable!

Keith


 
Posted : August 7, 2010 11:11 pm
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Texas land surveyors.

I will give y'all something to think about, since it is very noticeable that there are no comments coming forth on Kent's pulling private survey monuments.

Take it up with your State Survey Board and see what they say about it and thus end this argument.

How about it?

If not the State Survey Board, you must have some sort of peer review on survey policy?

Keith


 
Posted : August 7, 2010 11:22 pm

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Texas land surveyors.

Um... Keith, maybe all the Texas surveyors are ignoring you. Did you ever think of that?


 
Posted : August 8, 2010 12:03 am
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Texas land surveyors.

I wish all the unnecessary bashing would stop. It is getting awful on www.rpls.com, especially since the board format change, and I had hoped that people could talk here about surveying on the Internet without going bizerk. Maybe there needs to be a category called BS or something. This kind of stuff can ruin the wonderful intent of a forum. I am not the perfect example either; I have thrown flames too, but gosh now it seems like a few are getting rough almost habitually. Maybe the new category might be Flame Throwers, and BL could purge it daily.

To me is is not good if someone takes the time to post something that he/she finds interesting, and instead of people commenting or questioing, they throw flames. And sometimes when questioned the original poster gets his flame thrower out. Both parties turn into irritated crabs with big claws. Does not good. Harms the board.

There has got to be something better than this on a professional board.


 
Posted : August 8, 2010 6:44 pm
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Texas land surveyors.

Maybe they all work for the quickie-dickie surveyor?


 
Posted : August 8, 2010 8:40 pm
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Frank

Since it seems like some like to throw crap at me and I have to respond; it will simply be easier if I just leave.

And see if the crap gets any better.

On my laptop in beautiful Santa Barbara and have better things to do.

Let the anonymous jerks have the board.

Keith


 
Posted : August 8, 2010 8:52 pm
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Keith

I don't know what it is about your posts that gets certain people riled up to the point of personal attacks. I haven't been around this group long enough to understand that. The topics you bring up are some of the things that keeps the place interesting, though. If people would keep their own area of practice in mind when they talk about other people's areas of practice, it might help. Private practice surveyors and government surveyors have a slightly different role. I'm just guessing off the top of my head that it might be one source of the conflict.

At certain times, as a US Mineral Surveyor and a state-licensed surveyor, I've had a foot in each camp. My Mineral Surveys were actually original government surveys and as such were not really subject to disagreement after they were accepted. My other work is just an opinion that might or might not hold up to scrutiny. Different worlds, different rules.


 
Posted : August 8, 2010 9:04 pm

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Texas land surveyors.

Maybe we were out of town and didn't see this thread til late on a Monday. And actually I think it came up in a new thread by Kris Morgan today.


 
Posted : August 9, 2010 10:14 pm
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