only made better when it is there thru immaculate conception....
here's a +/- 30" dia ponderosa pine with a BT tag on it from 1960- no B or D but has the name of the 2 people who set it... 😐 the newer BT is for the monument. same date- no corner rec that we can find.
if the tree is either the NW BT or NE BT, the monument is +/- 15 off to the east or west.
here's the GLO-
here is a part of the corner rec from 1980---
a blow up....
No mention of the Somers lumber co BT tag but they take 2 new RMs?
sill sorting things out....
What I like to do is to measure to the Witness trees, and see where they place the monument. IF it fits the top, I use it. IF it fits somewhere else, sometimes I set another rebar. Whatever I do, I DOCUMENT it. "Fd. disturbed USFS mon, leans at approximately 20° from plumb, top is N25°E 0.62' from my set 5/8" rebar, which I set from the witness trees."
That's life.
Maybe they had too much rice wine, when they set the mon!
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When I find a monument sticking out of the ground and leaning, particularly when it's near a fence post ... well it's definitely disturbed, but you have to ask if it's been completely moved or just "bumped". I find that some people like to remove the monument, place their new fence post, then stick the monument back in the ground where it best agrees with the new fence post. The fence to the left looks new, the fence to the right looks old, and the fences don't appear to meet at the same corner. Does the "original?" tagged bearing tree agree with the older looking fence? Lots of stuff going on there. It looks like you have ties down the section lines to the next PLSS corner. May need to rely on those for answers. Good luck with this one.
I don't think he is worried about a few tenths of "lean", I think he is wondering if the leaning pipe is actually even close to the corner or not.
My guess is based on the red and white sign. The pipe was in the cleared area and line of fire of the shooting range. [sarcasm]Silly surveyors kept getting in the way of the shooters. Quick answer was to move the pipe and keep the silly surveyors out of the way for their own safety!!![/sarcasm]
Not too sure about your area, but from my experience when the notes call for a "stone in place", it usually is a very substantial stone, and only the visible part is described by the dimensions (18" x 18" x 8"). Assuming you haven't already found the BFR, as you know, it becomes a puzzle to piece back together.
[sarcasm]However, based on all the flagging tied in the area, the leaning monument MUST be the corner.[/sarcasm]
What's all this bearing tree stuff? Y'all must live in the middle of The Big Woods that was written about by Laura Ingalls Wilder.
Man, we don't have tape measures long enough to reach any trees most of the time.
Wow! that's a novel concept. They're even using a section corner as bait. 🙂
the rock in place thing is at sticking point. one position falls in a shallow cut for the buried powerline you can see in the pic. probably less than 3 feet. we found a boulder pushed to the side that's 18"x20"x30" with one very distinctive groove and then an odd ding across the groove. no other marks could be id'ed at that time- I'll take a pic next time we go out. We dismantled the monument- there were two stones that were 12x12 in that = but no marks on either of those....
SOME MORE STUFF
THIS IS FROM THE 1965 BPA PLANS-
TRYING TO GET A LEAD ON THE FIELD NOTES IN THE BPA OFFICE. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
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[sarcasm]Half the people that buy posted signs never show up with a hammer or nail to hang them with.[/sarcasm]
hat was actually screwed into the tree with 3" screws...we loosed it to expose the BT tags.
> Wow! that's a novel concept. They're even using a section corner as bait. 🙂
:good: hahaha...
I guess they're smart enough to know that a surveyor can hardly even see that red and white thing that is in the way of the yellow tag behind it. They just know it's an obstacle they have to remove to get to the sign they need.
