Shirtless SCREAMS redneck and unprofessional... They may be proficient and capable, but not professional. I used to work with these people... some of them will NEVER get it.... Everybody is "Hey bud" instead of "Excuse me, Sir"... That is NOT ME.
I'm not going to get into a debate about collared/non-collared shirts. I wear a decent T-shirt with my company name on it. If I'm gonna get eat up by barbed wire, locust thorns or general bulls#!t in the field... I want to toss an $7 shirt instead of a $30 shirt... I'm a big guy too... I'm hard to fit.
I also wear shorts year-round.... and it snows here. I'm THAT wacko. But I cover it when I need to, per the clients directive. I ask if there is a problem BEFORE I start... If there is a problem... I pass on the job. I hand out a lot of cards, get a lot of questions, and answer honestly. That is my style...
I can't even imagine a cow without a shirt. It's just not right.
Don
> I've seen the same dress code practiced by an NGS first-order leveling crew on Tchoupitoulas Street near Napoleon Avenue in years past. However, the NGS crew eschewed shoes, too.
Hey I learned a new word, had to look it up, cool thanks Prof.
At a busy intersection; shoes and shirts are a must. We actually require PC to wear collared shirts and all must wear boots. But, I was young once and if we were in the woods, shirts and britches were optional. It all depended on your tolerance to poison ivy and chiggers. In the eighties we were less aware of sun-damaged skin and bronze skin was desirable.
That was DEA. Great disguise, it worked.
Jim
Somewhere around the office, we used to have a photo that one of the PSM's took from a helicopter as he and the client's representative buzzed over one of our crews that was working six miles off the paved road and had just gotten off their woods buggy to open a gate. The caption below the photo read "Our Shirts Are Tucked In!".
The business manager in my office would give you a pink slip herself if she caught you Anywhere Near the road with no vest on, or cones out... As our interface with the insurance company, she knows how expensive our workman's comp. and other insurance policies are. Despite our vigilance about making use of our safety equipment regularly, our insurance company lumps us in with the companies they see on the road without safey equipment, and get accident reports about, and pay claims on, which makes it more expensive for the rest of us...
Just like being a 17 year old male driver with no accidents, your insurance rates as a surveying company are driven by the statistics of your profession as a whole, and what you witnessed was an alarming statistic. The fact that it was a blatant OSHA violation is just the beginning of "What's wrong with this picture".
I know a Surveyor that always wears shorts, no matter what. He drives barefoot, doesn't put boots on until he gets to the job site. He does where a clean t-shirt.
There's nothing wrong with t-shirts. I wear long sleeved t-shirts which are known as "station wear." They have the department logo on them. One good thing about working for the fire department and wearing blue is no one questions you. This is the first job where I have not yet been questioned when on private property (we have a right of entry but for the most part no one knows that). The downside of blue is it is hot.
I would like to switch to long sleeved button down collared shirts because my vest keeps riding up my neck and you can ventilate the front a little more. My employee gets them used at goodwill for $5 each and they look decent.
In the summer I wear cargo shorts daily. I don't see how that's a problem.
OSHA Requires Employers To Protect Employees From Hazards
The Sun is an environmental hazard to all who are working outdoors.
Besides signs, cones and safety vests much more clothing is required. More than likely flagmen were also to be required.
Work on your tan on your own time.
Paul in PA
PPE (personal protective equipment) is a big deal in construction, minimum for our guys are steel toed boots, dayglo shirts or vests, hardhats, eye protection and gloves. You can fill a conex (and we do) with all the additional safety gear that is needed sometimes for some jobs, including sound protection, vision protection, fall protection and respiratory protection.
Long sleeve shirts and sunblock are becoming more a concern for me than they once were. I was the guy with the snow white ponytail, flip flops, and shorts back in the day, but not anymore. Not only is it not professional, not once did any supermodels throw themselves at my feet, or at least not on this astral plane.
I supply anyone working with me bright red t-shirts & a bright red sweat shirt. Both have the company logo. Our signs got ran over by a semi- but we still have cones.
Jim
not once did any supermodels throw themselves at my feet,
I believe it was the Trailer Park Troubadours who once said:
You can call them super models,
But I'll tell you what:
A model ain't super
If she ain't got a butt!
Don
Was it these guys?
Betcha they were high also. True as it is in all facets, you get what you pay for.
Surveying profession as seen thru the windshield>ROLY KAROLY
what are you trying to say here? "He does where a clean t-shirt."
🙂 Sorry couldn't resist after your (you're. youse guys. you'uns) earler comment 🙂
Don