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(@la-stevens)
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We have a Topcon QS instrument that continues to be unreliable in robotic mode.?ÿ I'm searching for a reliable instrument.?ÿ

Does anyone have any recommendations for a robotic instrument??ÿ What about the new instruments that are capable of scanning? What software are you using with it??ÿ

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TIA,

Larry

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Posted : 10/05/2018 9:21 am
(@nate-the-surveyor)
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A 1950 K&E transit. The batteries don't go dead!

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 9:27 am
(@la-stevens)
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I have a K & E Paragon, but I'd need to find my magnifying glass to use it. ?ÿ

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 10:09 am
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I love the Trimble SX10 but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it as an everyday instrument, it's too heavy and bulky to traverse through the woods with. But it performs extremely well and the data is great, it's perfect for topo and the scanning is more than adequate for what I use it for. I always found the S6 to be an absolute pleasure to use and I'm sure the S7 is just as good; you want the active prism if you get one, it improves the performance greatly and it absolutely will not lock onto anything else when the target is active. If they still make the MT1000 it's worth the cost.

A lot of people have knocked it online for its perceived bulk and weight, but I think the new TSC7 is going to be fantastic with a robot and particularly with the SX10 or an S7 with the camera built in.

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 10:16 am
(@dave-karoly)
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Trimble S7 without reservation for run-of-the-mill Surveying work.

If you need scanning capability then that would require more thought.

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 10:30 am
(@frozennorth)
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Posted by: Dave Karoly

Trimble S7 without reservation for run-of-the-mill Surveying work.

If you need scanning capability then that would require more thought.

Is S7>S5 for ordinary workaday surveying?

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 11:01 am
(@peter-lothian)
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Leica TS12, pricey, but you get what you pay for. Reliable and the crew has no problems with it. Use Carlson data collection, and process data on the computer with Carlson Survey. I get by using Carlson's SurvNet for least squares adjustments, but Star*Net is a more refined software for combining data sources and tweaking measurement error estimates. No experience with scanners.

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 11:02 am
(@travis-caldwell)
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Posted by: Lee D

I love the Trimble SX10 but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it as an everyday instrument, it's too heavy and bulky to traverse through the woods with. But it performs extremely well and the data is great, it's perfect for topo and the scanning is more than adequate for what I use it for. I always found the S6 to be an absolute pleasure to use and I'm sure the S7 is just as good; you want the active prism if you get one, it improves the performance greatly and it absolutely will not lock onto anything else when the target is active. If they still make the MT1000 it's worth the cost.

A lot of people have knocked it online for its perceived bulk and weight, but I think the new TSC7 is going to be fantastic with a robot and particularly with the SX10 or an S7 with the camera built in.

I agree with Lee D almost completely. Having used all the equipment he talked about also. The S7 is an excellent robot. I only used one for a few days as a replacement but was very sad when our company bought a couple and I didn't get one. Not that I don't love my Focus, it's also an excellent robot as long as you don't give it shiny objects to chase around (car headlights are a particular favorite). The S7 will lock onto one thing other than it's prism however. It'll lock onto the reflection of the Prism. We have a couple QS robots and I'm really not a fan. The dog whistle can come in handy, but the S7 has GPS locating (using a TSC3 collector) and finds you pretty quickly. S7 and MT1000 gets another vote.

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 1:52 pm
(@moosetmj)
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Glad to hear others have robot issues with the QS. We went from 5603s to the QS. Trimble definitely does robots better than anyone else. I do love my Carlson collector though. Trimble won't play nice with Carlson.?ÿ

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 3:39 pm
(@moosetmj)
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Glad to hear others have robot issues with the QS. We went from 5603s to the QS. Trimble definitely does robots better than anyone else. I do love my Carlson collector though. Trimble won't play nice with Carlson.?ÿ

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 3:40 pm
(@ron-lang)
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I just purchased the Carlson CR2 aka Geomax with the base Rover package from Carlson for about 35k.

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Already had the Carlson surveyor 2 DC with GPS and robotics, which has been sitting in office for about a year because my cheif wouldn't use the Carlson 2 with the Leica TS15 robotic he used the viva controller DC and didn't want to switch. Because he knew the basics of stake out and data collection but no cogo

?ÿ I despise viva software.?ÿ Not surveyor friendly.?ÿ I grew up with SMI and Viva doesn't compare.?ÿ But Carlson is close and for me the best available software for field DC and cogo.

So I purchased the new RTS & Base Rover system for $35k from Carlson.a month ago.?ÿ Keep in monm when I purchased the Leica TS15 about 6yrs ago.?ÿ I paid about 40k for the robot and DC.?ÿ And another 40k for a Topcon Hyper V base Rover setup.

I must say that I am very impressed with the CR2 robot and the BRx6+ GPS base & Rover setup.?ÿ

It took a couple of weeks to get the settings right for the field, but so far so good, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

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Posted : 10/05/2018 4:00 pm
(@richard-imrie)
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Posted by: Travis Caldwell

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?ÿThe S7 will lock onto one thing other than it's prism however. It'll lock onto the reflection of the Prism.?ÿ

If you are talking about an active prism, I think I have seen this with a Trimble 5600 and a RMT606 active prism while testing in the office. At a few occasions while doing a prism search it came up with a lock but was pointing at a window and not the prism, so I assumed the phenomenon was the IR LED light of the active prism reflecting off the window, but at the time couldn't believe that was possible. In the field at one site, something similar may have happened while doing an urban road topo and out of maybe 3000 shots there were say 3 rogue shots that were way off the road, and later with a satellite image overlay these rogue shots lined up with adjacent building perimeters, i.e. possibly windows?

 
Posted : 10/05/2018 4:06 pm
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