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One of my local favorites:


 
Posted : July 28, 2014 11:18 am
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That's cool

I have referenced to a pair of headstones for a center of section monument but never for a section corner monument. Used the headstone of Birdie Bone for a benchmark on a road project. Figured it would be around far longer than anything else I could have used.


 
Posted : July 29, 2014 2:42 am
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That's cool

I like that... sorta! a few facts are in order. Cemeteries have been vandalized, and when headstones are replaced, they may not be 'perzactly where they used to be.

I have set GPS control in cemeteries. The folks burred out there, guard the base, and I like that.

I have had a church member get irate, and said that "GPS control is not respectful of the dead".

So, after the dust settles, I still like cemeteries, but I also try to remember the feelings of the living, and consider that SOMEBODY may mess with stuff. (Not the dead, they behave better than that!) So, check to some control....

🙂

N


 
Posted : July 29, 2014 5:31 am
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I see at least 7 points that could be described as the NW corner of the Moore monument.

Mr. Moore must have been quite a guy.


 
Posted : July 29, 2014 8:53 am
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That's cool

>when headstones are replaced, they may not be 'perzactly where they used to be.

I don't think vandals are going to move Mr. Moore's monument. The others, we haven't seen pictured so maybe that's a possibility.

I'm curious why #3 was taken from the NE corner instead of the nearer SE corner. Was it somehow obstructed?

Is the rule to take the corner at a point just above the ground in each case, or higher up? I wonder, being one who can find ambiguity where others do not. The difference isn't significant for recovering the monument, but would be if a reset was needed. Some monuments may be tilted slightly, or have a tapered base, or multi-level arrangement where you have to decide which part has been measured. They may present a nice sharp corner higher up that someone might be tempted to use - especially if there are obstacles like flowers in the way of a tape at ground level.


 
Posted : July 29, 2014 9:03 am

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That's cool

All excellent points. Our experience has been that these ties are helpful recovery tools, they generally result in an area one could cover with a ten gallon baseball cap.


 
Posted : July 29, 2014 9:08 am
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I'm glad I'm not the only one to see ambiguity.

I would be choosing between the one that looks rough like concrete just above the higher grass level, because that's where I would want to measure, versus the top corner of the concrete, versus calling that the base and measuring at the lowest part of the Barre gray granite that is the true monument itself. Fortunately in this case, it won't make a big difference if the corner needs to be reset.


 
Posted : July 29, 2014 9:09 am
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Bill93?

Yes it may be obstructed by plants.

The Moore picture shows the nearest corner of #3 (SW) so obstructed.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : July 29, 2014 7:19 pm