I am not a employee. We used a contract and I am sub contractor to him.
JB
thank you friends for you advice. I'm telling him to go jump in a river lol
I can now understand more about why you are posting anon.
I also understand your frustration. I have been in similar circumstances when I found myself working for those that did not care about their role in our profession and had to follow their instructions to get a paycheck. Fortunately, I found more responsible employers to be associated with.
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Just make sure that the dash lights in your vehicle are working before you leave out to go see him....
Jeff!
LOL!!!!!
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That is very funny.
Good idea, you do not need the grief!
I have too.
When you have kids needing to be fed and a roof over your head, and you ain't using that license anyway it goes farther down the list.
House, Food, Utilities, and transport to paying job come before a license I ain't using.
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Kind of what I was thinking...
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Take the money. Finish the job you were hired to do. Dont sign anything. Dont listen to the board scairdy cats either.
If you feel so strong about not having the field notes, then sit the guy down, look him straight in the eye, and ask him what the hells going on about the notes and why is he stalling. If he gets up to leave, punch him to let him know you are serious.
You are an employee and probably a poor one. Dont kill the chicken if that's all you have to put on the table...anyway, you have been half paid for the job so you're in for the long haul unless you want to hand that money back to him.
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This whole situation sounds weird to me. Let me see if I understand: This "friend" is a licensed individual that hired some guys to do the field work and hired you to determine the boundary? Some office calc's to run closures on traverses is one thing, but the licensed guy needs to make the call on what holds, right? You've asked for field notes and for other stuff to be field tied and they're not doing it. That's real bad if you're the one making the decisions, but you shouldn't be.
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Paul and Angelo both have good points.
Nobody at this point has knowledge the work is substandard, but you've expressed you don't have all the information as if you were the one signing it.
You've also said you are not the one signing it, but rather one part of the procedure from field to finish. Yours is a technical exercise, to do the calculations. Give your part 100% and do not lose a minute's worry over it from this moment on.
I am working with someone who considers the definition of 'jackleg' to be anyone who has made a profit on their work. If you don't suffer for your art, you aren't doing enough. I was trained many decades ago by this same person, and consider his mentoring as essential to my development, but have come to realize if you can't turn a profit you can't stay in business.
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But to be fair, without the field notes the calculations can be mathematically correct but 100% wrong. I read this as the guy signing it wants him to pencil whip the coordinates to make them work. Heck, it does not take a License to spin a deed to coords and make the math work with what is found and set. Calc'ing the boundary also means you have to take in to consideration the stuff that would be noted in the field book. Maybe that IPF has a note in the field book that it was found leaning and shot where it spins. Kind of makes that iron questionable to be held. But with just coordinates he may never know that and use two bent irons to base his whole boundary on.
I agree that the guy signing it SHOULD be the one making the boundary determination. I got to wonder why he is not. Is he really that busy now days?
It just seems like
this "licensed surveyor" is pulling a fast one and to be any part of his operation is going to bite you.
Reputable surveyors just don't do that. At least I hope so.
Keith
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I did that several times and he says he will get them to me in a day or two. then I asked for raw data because some points don't seem right. It's been weeks and he won't give me anything. I did the work for him on good faith that he would send the info i needed. Some points are 3 ft off what I expected and don't agree with other surveys in the area. I had to comp the lines and assume that the mon descriptions matched record. then he takes 2 weeks to do field work and expects me to turn survey around in like 2 days. I told him he was nuts. Its shotty work and I don't trust it and not without notes.
It just seems like
yes thank you keith for you wisdom. I know what he doing is unethicla and I have decided to stop working for him.
It just seems like
Great, glad to hear it.
You really don't need this stuff.
Keith
Sounds more like a "Stinky" situation
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"punch him"?
Really?
Now, instead of being somebody's dupe, he's a felon.
I don't think so.
It just seems like
Sicukus,
You have found your way into a bad situation, now find your way out.
I hope for the best.
Joe
