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(@thebionicman)
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Posted by: aliquot
Posted by: thebionicman

I think you read my post backwards.

A lot of people treat those with solid geodesy and measurement science abilities as inferior. They seem to believe you can't be good at those AND boundary law.

Of course someone can be good at both, but when someone brings measurment science to a boundary fight it is justified to question their boundary credibility.

The measurement science is a basic and necessary part of our knowledge base. It should be second nature to properly determine and express measurements and to know where they fit with the other evidence. It may sound cool to say otherwise, but it's wrong.

 
Posted : November 2, 2018 3:56 pm
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Boundary is a matter of the written intent of the document. A boundary surveyor collects evidence to make the determination of where those points are. Proper field procedure with proper equipment will mean those points will be where they are supposed to be with repeatable results.

It doesn't matter how many deed calls you recover if you're not using proper field procedures. Your product will be wrong.

 
Posted : November 2, 2018 6:55 pm
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Posted by: Steven Metelski

Boundary is a matter of the written intent of the document. A boundary surveyor collects evidence to make the determination of where those points are. Proper field procedure with proper equipment will mean those points will be where they are supposed to be with repeatable results.

It doesn't matter how many deed calls you recover if you're not using proper field procedures. Your product will be wrong.

The 'written intent' is not the entire story on a boundary survey. When the actions of the owners conflict with the deed, we have an opportunity to provide professional services.?ÿ

I deal with a lot of disputes. Most start with a surveyor taking a 'fire and forget' approach to surveying. They set pins, file a map and cash the check. The owners are left with a pile of crap and the 'call a lawyer' pat answer.

We need to help these folks solve problems. Involve the owners and walk them through cleaning up the record. Sometimes you don't get cooperation. At least make an effort. Anything less makes us 'boundary monitors'.?ÿ

 
Posted : November 3, 2018 10:21 am
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Measurement engineering and boundary surveying are two separate areas of expertise that proffesional surveyors are expected to be proffient in. In the modern world they are mostly separate areas of knowledge.?ÿ 99%?ÿ of boundary surveys require only a rudimentary understanding of measurements.

Until we go the way of Singapore and describe boundaries by unmovebale coordinates, measurment issues, like which way your antenna is oriented, and whether to measure from the top or the bottom of a slightly tilted pipe, are irrelevant to almost every boundary.?ÿ

Of course, we have to know enough to know when we encounter a rare exception, and if we are specialists in either measurment or boundaries and dont have expertise in the other we need to stay away from work outside our area of expertise.?ÿ

The universities do us a disfavor by putting all the emphasis on measurment, and teaching boundary as an after thought. We need the measurment specialists, but we dont need to turn every land surveyor into one.?ÿ

 
Posted : November 3, 2018 11:20 am
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