Employee or Sub-Contractor?
Rick,
Are you an employee of this prospective company? Or does he think you are a sub? The law might disagree with the employers prospective, and yours.
Joe
I agree. If we are professionals then we should be paid like such. That's the problem we are having in our area is a bunch of cut throats. Charge like a laborer, act like one, and pretty soon everyone will think we are. We are doing ourselves a disservice when it comes to pricing.
Tell them I will do it for 175k/yr. emails good in my profile
I wouldn't do it by the hour. I would give him two prices, one for a half day, the other for a full day. I don't like punching a time clock.
I would also find out how large of an area he covers. Right now I am 300 miles from home and working tomorrow. I'm not liking it.
James
> I agree. If we are professionals then we should be paid like such. That's the problem we are having in our area is a bunch of cut throats. Charge like a laborer, act like one, and pretty soon everyone will think we are. We are doing ourselves a disservice when it comes to pricing.
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I had about 200k but I value my expertise. 😀
> What the last guy made was between them and him, confidentiality. Doesn't really matter what he charged.
If he was happy, he didn't charge too little. I would think it would matter, and I would have that as my starting point. Or I would come up with a number that made the other party say, "Well, the other guy did it cheaper."
Otherwise, solo, with those conditions, including needing to pay for insurance, etc: $140/hour*1200=$168k minus countless expenses. I would expect take home to be about half of that.
That is just a guess, but if you aren't paid enough, this doesn't work for anyone.
> I had about 200k but I value my expertise. 😀
For the product requested, this would be reasonable. I mean, how much a month is it to rent a GPS, a robot, a truck. It all adds up.
> I had about 200k but I value my expertise. 😀
I was gonna go 200 but figured I'd give them a discount cuz I'm not bonafide :excruciating:
I just negotiated one today. Sub on a highway job. $100/hr plus live out allowance. They supply disposables (stakes, paint etc.) Rate depends on what others are charging in your area and what your costs are.
I wouldn't do the employee thing, you lose all the tax write offs.
Jim
I hear ya, none of the credentials, all the credibility.
A man has to know his limitations. Having just walked away from a similar situation, burnout is the standard with these types of arrangements. 215k a year would be a good start, but understand you will be living to work, not working to live.
I'm now making less than half what I was making, and the improvement in quality of life is worth every penny.
My only suggestion is for liability purposes, if they want you to work exclusively for them, you have to be a full time employee. I did the sub/bonding thing on one project, and figured out they were setting me up for taking the hit should anything go wrong. Nothing did, so I dodged a bullet (and made serious bank) but would NEVER do it again.
Default setting for the client is with all problems, blame the layout guy first. I spent as much time finding out where it all went to pieces when a mistake occurred and threw several other subs under the bus (their words anyhow, if their form guys got it wrong that is what I said happened) and put three out of business. At that point it was them or me, and I wasn't going anywhere.
> ..........., but understand you will be living to work, not working to live.
Am I missing omething? 1200 hours a year? I usually log that by April now
> I just negotiated one today. Sub on a highway job. $100/hr plus live out allowance. They supply disposables (stakes, paint etc.) Rate depends on what others are charging in your area and what your costs are.
> I wouldn't do the employee thing, you lose all the tax write offs.
> Jim
Rate depends on what others are charging in your area and what your costs are.
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the reason I asked is because if he was working too cheaply, you may be wasting your time...personally for everything they asked for $250k is a reasonable cost but if someone was doing it for $100k you will not likely get the job asking for 250k...every bit of info you can obtain helps. I would likely pass on the arrangement because they want me to be a subcontractor but they want me to exclude other clients..for me to do that, I would need either several years guaranteed or extra cash. just my take.
An "s"? 😉
I would think 160k-175k if very little overnight travel 180k-200k if you have a lot of overnight travel.
