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Senate Bill 1786 (2024) - The Florida Senate

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How will this bill affect professional licensure in your state?

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/1786/


 
Posted : January 13, 2024 12:40 pm
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Does this only apply to "exiled professionals"?


 
Posted : January 14, 2024 5:22 am
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It amends section 472.0101 - Foreign-trained professionals; special examination and license provisions and section 472.013 - Examinations, prerequisites. Therefore, it does not only apply to exiled professionals.


 
Posted : January 14, 2024 7:27 am
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They added an associate degree path. Interesting, considering the Garden v. Frier decision is a Florida case...

It would appear, absent any other information, that land surveyors would no longer be considered professionals in the eyes of FL law. Leaving aside the obvious argument over deregulation, this would seem to remove the legal protections that other professionals enjoy by dint of retaining the 4-year degree requirement. Good luck, Florida licensees, it looks like you're getting screwed by this legislation...


 
Posted : January 15, 2024 2:03 am
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"It would appear, absent any other information, that land surveyors would no longer be considered professionals in the eyes of FL law."

I'm wondering how you could possibly arrive at that conclusion. Do you think that the only thing that makes a Surveyor a Professional is a degree? How would you describe some of us older Surveyors that are mentoring degreed individuals without a college degree? The status of Professional Land Surveyor existed very long before the degree requirement. In my very soon to be 31 years of licensure, not once was I ever asked by any client what my level of education is/was.


 
Posted : January 15, 2024 6:55 am

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I’m wondering how you could possibly arrive at that conclusion. Do you think that the only thing that makes a Surveyor a Professional is a degree?

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The Florida Supreme Court arrived at that conclusion in 1992. Not me. Read the case decision I linked. That's why I said "in the eyes of the law".


 
Posted : January 15, 2024 7:39 am
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Colorado rolled its ruling back to include the 2 year options with course augmentation and experience. Odd thing that Florida is mounting this charge to seemingly deregulate and eliminate surveyors as professionals, as weren't they the ones that started the whole degrees required license process in the first place?


 
Posted : January 22, 2024 12:53 pm
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The move to deregulation picked up steam in 2015 or 2016. Our Board Agency has been replaced by a generic pile of dung, and Board powers are almost completely stripped. I'll stop there because the heart of the matter gets dangerously close to P & R...


 
Posted : January 23, 2024 3:22 am