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(@ontarget)
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Just looking for thoughts here. I have client that after I complete the re-survey (which has been checking fine so far) would like me to come back and pull the original points and reset more substantial monuments. The previous work has been done by different firms and as I said is coming in OK. We file here so I plan to refile my survey showing the changed monumentation. Anyone see a problem here? Something bothers me about it, but I'm not sure what. Thing is he will do it anyway, so why not make sure its done right.

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 7:54 pm
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> We file here so I plan to refile my survey showing the changed monumentation. Anyone see a problem here?

I have no problem with it.
Especially since you will document the change.

I might go so far as to say it's a good thing.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 2:57 am
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I see nothing wrong with it at all, though I would certainly inform all the landowners who share the monument(s) of my intention first.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 4:51 am
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Sounds like a good plan. You might want to dig the hole a little deeper and set a lower monument with a slight separation and then the surface monument. Those surface monuments tend to disappear.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 5:05 am
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> Just looking for thoughts here. I have client that after I complete the re-survey (which has been checking fine so far) would like me to come back and pull the original points and reset more substantial monuments. The previous work has been done by different firms and as I said is coming in OK. We file here so I plan to refile my survey showing the changed monumentation. Anyone see a problem here? Something bothers me about it, but I'm not sure what. Thing is he will do it anyway, so why not make sure its done right.

I'm having a very hard time trying to understand why any part of this would "bother" you.

Are you worried about not getting paid? Are you worried that your filed survey is going to disappear from the public records at some time in the future?

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 5:13 am
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I guess its just the part about pulling other surveyor's points that sits weird with me for some reason.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 5:37 am
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I guess that as long as you are marking the corners with more stable and recognizable monuments and the evidence chain is kept in tact and documented, there shouldn't be any reason to hesitate in replacing the existing markers. Remember it is the corner that is important not to move, not necessarily whatever is marking the corner. Monuments are replacable and "upgradable", corners should be stable and as permanent as reasonably possible.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 6:06 am
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> I guess its just the part about pulling other surveyor's points that sits weird with me for some reason.

I think you'll find that a large pair of vise-grip pliers can be used without sitting weirdly.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 6:40 am
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Whenever I get my dream acreage, I plan on constructing white concrete obelisks at each corner with an interior rebar cage, inset lettering on the sides, and stainless steel metal shavings mixed into the concrete. Machine engraved brass disks will be set on top of each obelisk with a center punched 5/8" threaded bolt in the exact center to facilitate survey equipment.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 7:56 am
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Better step back a few feet in all directions and build a few hedgehogs to keep away dozers, tractors, etc. Monuments that nice would attract them from miles away.:-D

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 10:13 am
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> > I guess its just the part about pulling other surveyor's points that sits weird with me for some reason.
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> I think you'll find that a large pair of vise-grip pliers can be used without sitting weirdly.

🙂

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 1:53 pm
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stainless? self remonumentation sort of

stainless steel is non magnetic.

boat people use a magnet to detect if the stainless is low grade, not good in salt

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 6:36 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
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send the other surveyors courtesy copies of your map if it would make you feel better.

I encourage upgrading monuments, paper trail is best

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 6:38 pm