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The Pseudo Ranger
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FWIW, I don't even know who did this survey. It was faxed to me in two pieces with the title block cut off.

BTW, at the top of the page, there is a platted alley way that is not labeled, so it's a right of way.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 8:50 am
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What is the bearing and distance of the control line?

I am not familiar with the abbreviations, such as FPP.

I have been spelling things out over the last few years because someone 50 or 100 years from now may not be familiar with our conventions. Future surveyors may use my maps because they are filed for posterity.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 8:58 am
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Uh.....several things. What gives with the plat line being way below the survey line which is way below the darkened property line? Are there two Lot 15's or is the tract to the right and it's bar mislabeled? Who decided the extra distance in the house tract really is deserved to be taken from the tract to the right?


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:00 am
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I am not familiar with the abbreviations, such as FPP.

Found Pinched Pipe. As a guess.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:01 am
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Now that you mention it, the Lot to the left is short too.

I think the Lot to the right is labeled 16 but the 6 got boogered up by the bad fax.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:02 am

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Also, I despise rotated drawings. Further my guide has always been that you put the "sideways" text so that it can be read when the page is turned clockwise.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:05 am
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The one on the right is just PP, so did he set it?

He says he measured the overall lot width dimension.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:05 am
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That's funny; my training was to put sideways text to be read from the right as it is done on this drawing.

And north up or to the right. But with right reading text, if you rotate north up then your sideways text is upside down.

So some of the conventions I was taught (and a lot of others because most maps look like mine in that regard) doesn't make total sense, I will agree.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:08 am
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Don't know if the found back corners are the original corners but somehow lots 14 and 16 got shortened and lot 15 increased.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:31 am
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Did the surveyor just make the existing property corners "witness corners" and extend the boundary out to cover the garage? These "witness corners" are on the plat line?

The FPP and PP are on the control line and have no idea what that means?

Is the heavy line, the new boundary?

Keith


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:49 am

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Sometimes on these basic maps, they do make sense if there is a clear record map that this is taken from. If the 1/2" iron pipes are shown as original and set as accessories to the actual corners, it may all make sense - but on its own of course it is missing a few facts that take very little time to draft.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 9:57 am
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Why is this one lot protruding into the street 4± feet?


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:07 am
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Yes Keith, that is how it appeared to me, as well.

I'm not sure what "control line" and "plat line" represent on this survey. What he has labeled as "control line" is a line of monuments along the south side of the right of way (and I located several more in both directions and confirmed they line up quite well). I also located monuments along the north side of the alley right of way, and confirmed these monuments hold the platted right of way width.

You can also see on the sidelines that the measured distances are 4 or 5 feet longer than the calculated distances. Although there is no record distance for this lot on this plat, you can calculate lot distances based on the overall block boundary. That is what the "c" distances represent. So his "m" distances also extend beyond what the plat calls for.

What he labeled "witness corners" are on the boundary line, IMO. It appears to me, that the boundary line was extended into the alleyway to avoid showing the concrete pad as an encroachment.

This is my opinion ...


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:08 am
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OOPS, I read "c" as being for "called".........


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:12 am
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sorry ... in reading the comments I forgot the drawing was rotated. North is actually to the left on this drawing, so I should have referred to the east and west alley R/W line, rather than north and south.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:17 am

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Yes, found pinch-pipe. The "PP" is a power pole right next to the 1/2" re-bar.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:26 am
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There is no way to relate the "survey control line" to the property line, whatever that may be, which appears he held all existing monuments and put actual and title bearings and distances.
Looks like it was an attempt to clear up a sloppy subdivision, but it looks, to me, that it fell short.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:36 am
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> which appears he held all existing monuments ...

Why do you say that? He extended the boundary line 4-5 feet beyond the existing monuments, for no apparent reason.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:46 am
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Hmmm,

Maybe I'm a
qll wet, but it looks to me like someone built their buildings all the way out to the control line, which is down the center of the 8' ROW, not knowing that the ROW line is O/S from the conrtol line.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:50 am
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Here's a visual of the alleyway behind the property. This is facing south. The SE corner "1/2" FIR" is right behind the power pole (PP). You can also bearly make out the orange of a flag I set further down the alley ("SE corner lot 16" on the survey), by the gray fence corner. The monuments, face of the wall, and fences all line up quite well.

The concrete pad is nothing more than the apron that leads into the car port. More or less, a short driveway.


 
Posted : April 23, 2011 10:52 am

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