This is typical for east-west roads in my area.?ÿ Bunch of liars wrote the Field Notes.?ÿ They DID NOT go from the section NWC to the existing NEC and return while setting the quarter corner on the return trip.?ÿ No need to fret the "bulge" caused by curvature of the Earth.
Of course there are quite a few fraudulent surveys out there, but the majority of such accusations don't pan out. I am not saying your area doesn't have fraudulent surveys, just want people to realize that assuming fraudulent surveys is a very easy way to get yourself in trouble. It's right up there with assuming the original monuments are gone.
During the contracting error there was a lot more crappy work than fraudulent work. Frequent errors is not the same as "lying".
The road may have been built to approximate the section line, but with those wiggles I doubt they thought they were precisely following it.
Recommend taking a peek at the following LAT/LONG locations
37.20408, -95-40431 WOW!!!
37.72572, -95.16939 A Section 1 where they ran 6 miles west and returned. OOPS! E and N
37.56538, -95.17004 Another Section 1 with major kink in north line.
37-76076, -94.98866 This is NOT a problem. This is a case of an Indian Boundary issue. Land to the north was surveyed 10 years earlier than the land to the south. A small sliver of a section lies just to the north of the boundary line. The entire remainder of the section (south) was surveyed 10 years later. Early settlers either purchased that little sliver or they didn't. The county road was placed to follow the ownership change line, not necessarily the section line.
Google Earth show those are interesting breaks in the very regular patterns of development
Was that a railway between Mound Valley and Parsons? - it shows up very clearly
@holy-cow if your are surveying by lat long you are doing it wrong. (Especially in decimal degrees)
Just used the lat/long to help anyone interested to take a look around the neighborhood.
Looks like all you need to do is Wiggle in on that line spline or whatever. Lol was it just a pencil whipped survey.
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if your are surveying by lat long you are doing it wrong. (Especially in decimal degrees)
I beg to disagree.
You might very well be doing it by the basics.
But that is NOT wrong
This planet is an oblate spheroid, not a projected plane
was it just a pencil whipped survey.
Most likely real field work with shortcuts like setting quarter corners by stubbing them in and not running all the way across the mile first.
if your are surveying by lat long you are doing it wrong. (Especially in decimal degrees)
I beg to disagree.
You might very well be doing it by the basics.
But that is NOT wrong
This planet is an oblate spheroid, not a projected plane
You misunderstood me. Geodetic bearings are what we all should be reporting. We don't need pre-computer shortcuts anymore. Warped grids on an imaginary plane should have been left behind in the 20'th century.
My point (partly in jest) was that you shouldn't come to any boundary conclusions directly from coordinates.
@bill93 I was just being sarcastic but i am with you. I miss the PLSs work. I am having my own struggles here in a colonial state fun but tough. No monuments left from a few floods except river and creek which have changed course obviously. No angles no distances ever used so far except leave creek go 75 ft approximately to river parallel lines. No plats found yet but research continues. The fun jobs.
I doubt any of the local original surveys ran the length of the north lines. I always presume that the N1/4 is a stub out. Maybe from the NW corner, maybe not. Later original surveys seem to have actually done it.
Many of the local dependent resurveys have the "bad move" infection, those you have to keep a lookout for and try to deal with each one, we have dozens of them. The bad move could also happen during the originals but I figure it's more a stub-out situation.
I have great respect for those old surveyors, stub-outs and all.
@aliquot so what you are saying is that computerization cancels out pre-computer errors or blunders? Are we not supposed to be following in the footsteps of our predecessors? Sometimes the best conclusions come from recreating the wheel in the same ways that they created it. Computerization does not provide the perfection in an imperfect situation.
