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spledeus · 2017-11-09T16:48:00Z

Her: I am from the Boston Library and I was asked to research a taking that your firm helped prepare.Me: Sure, I'd be happy to help. How does a librarian get roped into title research.Her: Well they ask and I provide.Me: OK, so where is the property?Her: I have this reference "Plan dated, XX-XX-2015, Entitled Sewer, Water and Utility Easement Plan"Me: OK, so what street is your client on?Her: Can't you just find it based on that reference?Me: Well, we prepared several plans with that same title and without the street, I can only guess which plan it is.Her: I am having trouble with the antiquated Browntech Registry Website.Me: It may be a little older, but it is the only registry in the Commonwealth that has scanned documents back to the beginning.Her: Well, when it works, it makes me pay.Me: And that is how we have every record back to the fire scanned in and available.Her: Well I keep searching in this section for the plan.Me: You are searching in the deed research, not the plan research section below.Her: Oh, there's a difference?Me: How much title research do you get asked to do?Her: Well, when someone asks for something, I find it.Me: OK, well, what is the owner's name?Her: Kipper Realty Trust (Name changed to something else just like every name used here)Me: Do you have a title reference?Her: Yes it is registered in the land court as Deed Book XXX, Page XX.Me: Oh, that's recorded at the registry, not registered at the land court. I found the document and it references plan book XXX, pages 1-16.Her: OK, so can you find the plan from that.Me: OK, here is their reference in the abstract. Still not sure which street, let me look in the GIS....Me: Their property is along Old Bird Farm Road. There are no takings there. Hang on. OK, Their property backs up to Shallup Place, perhaps that is where the taking is.Me: It looked like they purchased the property last year from Robertman, is this the one?Her: As I librarian I am bound by a code of ethics and I am not allowed to ask such questions.Me: OK, it's public record and I have the plan, Plan Book XXX, Page 15. It appears on our plan as Robertman who held the title in 2015 when we prepared the plan. It also shows NO FEE INTEREST, so I am unsure why they recorded a taking against this property.Her: What do you mean?Me: Are you a lawyer?Her: No, I am a librarian.Me: Well, lawyers often mess up the subtleties of conveyancing. With this taking project, we have found several cases of roads being erroneously conveyed multiple times or not at all or illegally. One land courted property included a conveyance of the fee of a road but the underlying plan did not call out the road as a separate lot and technically the conveyance could be made illegitimate by the court. Because of these flaws or potential flaws, it is my understanding that Town Counsel is setting up the takings against anybody who may have a claim of title or a potential title to ensure there are no issues moving forward.Her: Can you send me the plans?Me: Sure, email?Her: XXX@lawyersoffice.comMe: Here you go.So I looked up the URL and then her linked in. She allowed confusion as I had assumed she worked at Boston Public Library. She works in the Law Library at a Big Legal Firm that specializes in many areas including Real Estate. She should have disclosed that she was working for an attorney, but what do I know?So my real question: If they specialize in Real Estate, why do they need to contact a surveyor to provide them with research from a Registry?

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Chris Bouffard, post: 455068, member: 12313 wrote: Fortunately I get paid by the hour for arguing with the clowns and educating on things they should already know.

I'll talk all day long with whomever as long as I'm getting paid. Pro bono, not so much . . .

Posted : November 12, 2017 10:10 am

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Mike Marks, post: 455149, member: 1108 wrote: I'll talk all day long with whomever as long as I'm getting paid.

Yup, survey talk is billable. Hunting, fishing, & sports, ya know the important stuff, is free.

Steve

Posted : November 12, 2017 11:27 am

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