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What's the going rate for 5/8" x 30" dowel cut rebar these days? After 4 years my stockpile is dwindling.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 4:26 pm
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i buy #4 rebar 18" long that are about $0.65 each


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 4:44 pm
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Um, I finally went to 1/2", then 3/8", then little bitty pieces of wire, and since they are so high, I now set imaginary points....

Just like some of the old timers.... but they don't say "Imaginary Point"!

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Posted : July 6, 2011 4:45 pm
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> Just like some of the old timers.... but they don't say "Imaginary Point"!
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One famous/infamous A & E company in my area had IPS on every thing that they set... It was supposed to mean Iron Pin Set. But, after years of looking for many, many unset corners, a few of us "new timers" just know that IPS was for "Imaginary Point Set" or "Intended Pin Set". The chances of actually finding monumentation at these corners was about 20%. Pathetic.

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Posted : July 6, 2011 4:54 pm
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I just called my supplier who quoted $1.75 ea., delivered.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:03 pm

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Nate, I've been using my golf balls. You know, the newfangled ones with the laser beam shooting straight up so you never lose them. Clients love them. Sometimes I'll take some old refridgerator magnets and put them underneath, to help the next guy....

But seriously, I paid $37 per bundle of 5/8" x 18" last fall. I'm not sure if there are 25 or 50 per bundle, but I think its 25. I know they ain't cheap and the bundle is heavy. But it's a good excuse to go to Vegas.

I guess there is another source nearby for less, but you need a truck load and they don't bundle them. Plus they are pinched and not cut, so it seems that one end is always bent. I'm not that rich, don't have the storage space, nor that busy. Plus I don't like the bent ends.


 
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> What's the going rate for 5/8" x 30" dowel cut rebar these days? After 4 years my stockpile is dwindling.

I'm not sure what "dowel cut" is. I priced 20' sections over a year ago at about $20. Dollar a foot. Sometimes there would be free cutting, sometimes not. I think $0.25 cut was the going rate.

I've started buying galvanized pipe from my local Home Depot/Lowe's/True Value. I was buying 1/2" x 10' and it was about $14. I now buy the 3/4" x 10' and it's about $18. I cut it to the lengths that I want. I discovered that black pipe (for natural gas) is about 60% of the cost of galvanized and bought some of it to set. I set what I can, when I can buy it, and call it out on my plat, so I don't care if I buy different sizes, as long as it is identified.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:04 pm
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Purchased some in the spring from a local steel shop and As I recall they were approximately 1.20 for 30 inch long #5 rebar. They were shear cut, I don't like the flame cut bar.I picked them up at their shop, no delivery charge plus sales tax


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:05 pm
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> I'm not sure what "dowel cut" is.

"Dowel cut" means sawn off, not sheared or burned off.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:07 pm
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Best I ever had was epoxy coated rebar. Local fabricator saved his cut-off's and scrap and trimmed them to 30 inch for me.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:08 pm

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> ... I set what I can, when I can buy it, and call it out on my plat, so I don't care if I buy different sizes, as long as it is identified.

Oregon State law specifies 5/8" x 30" iron rod.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:09 pm
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> > I'm not sure what "dowel cut" is.
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> "Dowel cut" means sawn off, not sheared or burned off.

ahhh... I think all's we can get around here is the sheared/clipped/pressure cut.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:15 pm
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> Best I ever had was epoxy coated rebar.

We (locals) had a supplier that had those for a few years, and then they got away from them. I agree, I liked those. A light green coating? They look good 20 years later.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:18 pm
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> > ... I set what I can, when I can buy it, and call it out on my plat, so I don't care if I buy different sizes, as long as it is identified.
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> Oregon State law specifies 5/8" x 30" iron rod.

Roger that. We have some state specific minimums, but I'm well over those. A local county requires 3/4" x 36" pins or pipes on new lot corners, but I doubt they pull them to check the length. I complied on the 2 subd's I did, but if I had to set a BUNCH, I'd probably consider cutting them to 30".


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:21 pm
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100 1/2" X 24" has been costing just shy of $70 at a local supply company.

They are as you say, dowel cut. I grind the burrs off at a 45° rounding on both ends and paint 1/2 of each rebar with orange enamel.

I have talked with several surveyors that have started using 16" long monuments since the law requires us to call the dig company for anything at 18" or below.
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Posted : July 6, 2011 5:28 pm

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> ahhh... I think all's we can get around here is the sheared/clipped/pressure cut.

I'm pretty sure you can get them now that you know what to ask for. I have trouble getting a plastic cap on the rod when it's been deformed by shearing. The extra money you spend on the dowel cutting is saved by not wasting caps.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:28 pm
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3/4" x 36" for a lot corner? Talk about a major bureaucratic FUBAR. Especially when placing them in a new subdivision. Is the owner of the local steel mill on the county board?

A backhoe doesn't care if they are 16" or 3 ft, but the poor homeowner who has to pay for them will. Carry 4 or 5 of them 1/4 mile up a 20% grade to go set the back corners. No thanks. And what happens when you hit bedrock about 18" down?


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:40 pm
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> 3/4" x 36" for a lot corner? Talk about a major buracratic FUBAR. Especially when placing them in a new subdivision. Is the owner of the local steel mill on the county board?
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> A backhoe doesn't care if they are 16" or 3 ft, but the poor homeowner who has to pay for them will. Carry 4 or 5 of them 1/4 mile up a 20% grade to go set the back corners. No thanks. And what happens when you hit bedrock about 18" down?

Haha. No about the steelmill comment.

But, I hear you, loud and clear. I should have specified they were one lot subdivisions, 4 corners each. That's why I said if I had to set a bunch, I'd cut back on the lengths. This is 90% farmland, thick topsoil. I've encountered no rock yet, but I'm sure it will happen someday.


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:45 pm
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My first job in surveying was with a big engineering company in San Diego that also ran about 10 crews at the time. I was hired to make blueprints and gas up the trucks, and other odds and ends.

"So you want to be a surveyor, kid? See that stack of 20 foot long 3/8" rebar? Cut 'em up into 18" sections and fill up that wooden box over there."

They did have a heavy duty cutter, so it wasn't all that bad. Not much was back then...


 
Posted : July 6, 2011 5:51 pm
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We buy an entire bundle (96 count I think) of 5/8 x 20' rods at a time and cut them into 2' sections ourselves. We go through about 1000 rods a year, depending on how many subdivisions we do.

We just bought a bundle a month or so ago, so I will pull the cost in the morning.


 
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