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The little push button to quick release the data collector from the pole clamp somehow broke in half right at the point where that little screw goes through it. Is there a way to get just the button from SECO? The rest of the clamp is fine, and I can't see spending $75 because of this little plastic button...Why couldn't they just make it out of steel like the rest of the thing?

I already epoxied the thing back together and put it back, but I am not entirely confident it will stay together long....


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 6:24 am
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O come on, be a big spender! 🙂


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 10:04 am
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Yes... you can order the button. I just did the other day. Part Number is 5070-008.

http://www.surveying.com/seco/media/Tech-Drawings/5198-052_B2_DP.PDF&apos ;">SECO POLE CLAMP DIAGRAM

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5198-052_B2_DP.PDF (36.5 KB) 


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 10:45 am
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Thanks


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 12:12 pm
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They used to make the button out of metal, or at least one company did. We still have a few olders ones I am guessing at least 10 years old with metal button, I just bought a new one a month or so ago, and it is plastic. I know SECO used to make everything in California years ago, and now they make some parts in China, so maybe that is when they switched to plastic.


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 1:52 pm

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Yeah... we have one that is metal and a couple of others that are plastic. Did the same thing and broke it right at the screw. Tried to glue it back and just not enough surface to make a good fit. If I had a 3-D printer or a lathe!


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 2:19 pm
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Scott Ellis, post: 347763, member: 7154 wrote: I know SECO used to make everything in California years ago, and now they make some parts in China

It sounds like the Trimble buyout is making itself evident.


 
Posted : December 7, 2015 3:33 pm
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Seco, as most other survey product suppliers, have manufacturing companies like S. I. Precision make most of their aluminum products.

https://www.google.com/search?q=s+i+precision&rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS377&espv=2&biw=1097&bih=543&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjfoZz1yczJAhUW4mMKHc_JAIoQsAQIOg&apos ;">Many of their products


 
Posted : December 8, 2015 9:33 am
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You sound like one of those "one line" calls I get so often.:whistle:


 
Posted : December 9, 2015 9:51 am
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You can 3D print in several metals, but, that amount of material is going to make that fairly unpalatable cost wise. Quick material assessment tells me around $22 in stainless, $5 or less in nylon. The other factor is drilling into printed stainless is only marginally better than drilling into stainless. Regardless, of printed metal or plastic a thread insert would be a good idea. All of ours I have seen are metal, so, I can't comment on whether a printed nylon would be better than their cast plastic, but, my guess is it would be.


 
Posted : December 9, 2015 10:23 am

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Had to mull it over a couple minutes but I finally got it.:-P


 
Posted : December 9, 2015 4:12 pm
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I made it through day three and the epoxy is still holding. If you think about it the only time its used is when it's pressed downward toward the spring which is just compressing it back together. It's not like i pull on the button, so maybe it'll hold for a while.


 
Posted : December 9, 2015 4:52 pm
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I modeled what would fit in the hole and print in metal. The cost was cheaper than expected.

http://shpws.me/L4Mt&apos ;"> SECO 5198 Metal replacement for 5070-008

If you want plastic you should get it from them, but, if you want nylon which will be stronger than their plastic http://shpws.me/L4Mz&apos ;">Plastic 5070-008


 
Posted : December 10, 2015 11:55 am
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Well the damn thing cracked in half again...I just ordered the nylon one you posted. I'm looking forward to see how it comes out and holds up.


 
Posted : January 11, 2016 10:41 am
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Dan, it will be printed from powder, so, the hole will be full of dust. Use a paperclip or pick to clean it out and then tap it or just force the screw in (not suggested, but, understandable.) I strongly advise against a thread insert as there just isn't much surrounding material. Looking forward to your report!


 
Posted : January 11, 2016 11:30 am

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Installed and seems to be working fine just like the original. I won't have a field use report until the 18" of snow melts a little.


 
Posted : January 25, 2016 8:17 am
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That's a test I hadn't thought of. We complain and do all the things as locals we are supposed too, but, the bottom line is we rarely see extreme cold (like when I grew up in AK.) I have never subjected any printed plastic to extreme cold. I know the injection plastics get brittle in extreme cold and what I have seen of nylon it does as well, just not as quickly. I just did a quick Google and it sounds like the effect will be a result of how much moisture was in the plastic, being sintered I wouldn't think much if any will be in the print


 
Posted : January 25, 2016 9:39 am
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Just ordered two more....steel this time. I should've gotten them in the first place.

Sometimes when I am taking a quick ride across site I use the push button releases to remove the 360 prism and data collector from the pole. Then the rod and bipod go on two hooks mounted on the side of the van (inside). It then gets a bungee cord around it to hold it in place. Well the button got stuck under one of the rubber coated hooks and cracked off when I attempted to lift it out. Steel would not have broken. Other than that it was working perfectly fine - good fit.


 
Posted : April 21, 2016 10:55 am