Follow up on that last post about this situation...
Survey is done, WOW, what a fun job it was!!
My client came out and handed me a check and she showed me a file she had. It was a filled out complaint form to the State Board with pictures. She pointed to one particular picture, it was the new LS tag next to the lead/nail 0.06' north.
Vewy Interesting. I hope some pincushioners realize how important it is to toss the math out (if it's justified) and start accepting monuments.
I do support her filing the complaint. Nothing will be done. The state has to investigate it. How much investigation will be done, I have no idea. Someones going to get uncomfortable though.
She also said he was very rude to her.
Being rude is ALWAYS a bad idea.
Here is one I'm working on
Wow!
I saw a pincussion once that I thought had to be a joke.
2 #5 rebars set right next to each other - literally one driven by the side (touching) the other. Whoever set it actually had to whittle part of the cap off the original.
... unbelievable.....
have faith Paul
They will investigate and action will be taken, when and what type will depend upon the results of the investigation.
have faith Paul
> They will investigate and action will be taken, ...
Well, that is not something I want to see happen. The client is just that way. She just takes pictures and calls lawyers and file complaints. That's just how she is. I told her today to just let the whole thing go and forget about it but she was not listening.
I did have an interesting talk with the neighbor though, the one that had the survey done in May. He told me that the surveyor had surveyed his property twice. I asked the neighbor if he thought it a bit strange that his May survey placed another marker 3/4" south of one. He said, That his surveyor told him the ground was moving.
Now I am wondering if the May surveyor placed the other lead/nail in the first survey he is alleged to have done for this neighbor and did not accept his own work and pin cushioned himself
I was thinking about this whole situation and thought about how upset this monument rejecting has caused this woman. I do support a complaint on those grounds, but not to get some surveyor branded and investigated to the 3rd degree. That lead/nail was accepted and agreed upon by both parties, even though they are at war with each other. Like previously stated, it was the city's sidewalk restoration that removed the marker..maybe they should also get an earfull over the whole thing.
Paul wow
I went out to recon a site for an estimate. The area of town is a little difficult. The neighbor is complaining about the survey done next door. I poke around and find the corners and right next to each of the front corners are small holes in the side walk .3' from the newly set corners. I met the potential client and he explained that he did not like the survey and the surveyor had come out twice. once to set the corners and then another time the surveyor came back and moved the corners over 0.3' closer to his property. Then the potential client mentioned that he had moved the tag back to the first place.....
I have no idea what happened since I did not want to get involved. I did inform the first surveyor that one of his corners had been moved....
Paul wow
> . Then the potential client mentioned that he had moved the tag back to the first place.....
Thats a great example of the power a propery owner has when acceptance of a survey marker forms in thier mind. He saw where the marker was the first time and from that point on he was steadfast that the marker could never be moved.
Good lesson there..
Paul wow
Lucas had an interesting sentence in his recent article that said something like, "what do we do wait until surveyors survey it over and over until somebody gets it right?" there is a hellacious amount of deep meaning in that statement, and think is a very good way of looking at it.
The only accurrate map is the full size map out there on the ground surveyed by the original surveyor, and all of these maps we make are efforts to represent what is out on the ground.
> Here is one I'm working on
As Ryan above states, WOW indeed! There are so many things disturbing about that reference. Mathematical perfection aside, can the surveyor who produced that 'reproduce' the exact same spot within .01 feet.
Also, I noticed the words "fence encroaches". It's interesting in that I know of a few surveyors who will absolutely never use the word "encroach" and its variants on a survey. They will state "protrudes" (and variants thereof), stating that encroaching is a legal term.
