At the end of the day it is most important the words on the paper tell the reader a conplete and correct story. Sometimes that means using common language as opposed to technically correct jargon. Would you rather read 3" tube or 3" x 3" square pipe?
@nate-the-surveyor, in retrospect, your description is correct. If the bar has reduced its section due to rust and wear then you described its current condition as a 9/16ths rebar.
@thebionicman, I admit having doubt when it was found. That is why I looked it up. Most of clients would call it a pin. I cringe every time I hear that term and do not put that on any of my maps. You can call it whatever you like, but on my map I am calling it a rectangular shaped steel or iron tube 0.10 feet by 0.05 feet found 0.5 feet down from the surface.
Liquids have definite volume but gases do not have definite volume. Both liquids and gases do not have a definite shape and take the shape of the container in which they are stored. Liquids flow from higher level to lower level but gases flow in random direction.
I see that as time passes, younger field crew members don't know what they are looking at: "cone shaped iron pipe with 2 flaps"-it was a peevee head but could have been a wagon skene (sp), "diamond shaped iron bar in concrete"-road establishment notes from 1890s -spike from a spike tooth harrow in round rock, "pipe with donut on top"-boiler flue with a flange. The one which really stumped me doing research was "found original post and drove in a fishplate". Now that may mean something to someone, but no surveyors I know in our area. I was at a seminar and the presenter asked it there were any questions so I asked if anybody knew what a fishplate was. I think the entire front row turned around to see who the class idiot was. They survey in an area with numerous historic rail lines so informed me. Turns out the GLO post was within 200' of a railroad (got junk?). One of my favorites was reading a BT book in Oregon, looking for a quarter corner which a surveyor in the 1920s found and put in the notes "replaced with a Chevrolet axel" then crossed out Chevrolet and wrote Cadillac. Like I would know the difference. As is said "History to a surveyor is knowledge and Power". Now I need to look up what a "Headright" is based on a comment above.
Recent survey has a Ford axle specified at a quarter-quarter corner out where the hoot owls pack an overnight bag and a canteen.
we have a lot of 4"x4"x48" concrete posts set in all sorts of remote places by our Survey Crews in the 1950s & 60s. I've seen these things in places that were hard to get to with no equipment let alone a 70lb monument. Then I look at the field notes: K. Nelson, Lindsay, Smith and 2 CDC Men (i.e. prison inmates borrowed from one of the Fire Camps).
Do you suppose I could borrow a couple of those guys for a few days. No white collar crime types, though. They wouldn't be able to pick up half of a 70 lb monument.
That is what the typical COE monuments are with a 3in brass cap installed on one end with elaborate casting and a smooth place to stamp the monument designation, such as C24 for segment map C monument 24.
They have a 3/16± inch wire core from the bottom of the monument to encircle and tie to the base of the brass disk.
Once a dozer takes the brass disk out the wire follows and there is nothing left to find with a Schonstedth and I have yet to find one that matches call distance from another.
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That is what the typical COE monuments are with a 3in brass cap installed on one end with elaborate casting and a smooth place to stamp the monument designation, such as C24 for segment map C monument 24.
They have a 3/16?ñ inch wire core from the bottom of the monument to encircle and tie to the base of the brass disk.
Once a dozer takes the brass disk out the wire follows and there is nothing left to find with a Schonstedth and I have yet to find one that matches call distance from another.
I found a COE disk that was in the NGS data base, and am not sure if it was also cadastral.?ÿ Unfortunately when I went back some years later it was lying horizontally under the grass roots 8 ft from where ties put it, probably taken out by the installation of a fiber optic line. It was somewhat different from your description, being an aluminum casting on a circular tube with a pointed casting on the bottom.?ÿ There were small magnets inside, but those were found on top of the point instead of under the cap, so would have been hard to detect.?ÿ No wire inside.
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ours have a central 3/4" rebar with a 2-1/2" brass disk with stem.
Frank Lermond set 6x6 concrete monuments in the 1930s, no disk or cap.
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The ones around here are from the early 1950s
The latest monuments are 6in pipe fence corners with a washer tag welded at the ground on the COE side and very hard to identify because of wrapped barbed wire and bramble roots that are beginning to cover that part of the post.
I have no understanding why they are not around the top portion of the steel pipe filled with concrete which would help in finding them.
That is what was placed where a 90d spike was that passed thru the washer ID.
