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brad-ott
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Is it better / easier for the storm structure manufacturers to make a square/rectangular or a round orifice in an outlet control structure, maybe 8 inches ish?


 
Posted : April 9, 2020 5:19 pm
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Locally, the lower openings are precast and round. Overflows are typically cut on site?ÿ after the pond has been built and the engineer has looked at the as-built volume. Overflows are rectangular.?ÿ


 
Posted : April 9, 2020 7:34 pm
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The real reason they even make round outlets is so that engineers and surveyors can giggle when they say "orifice equation"?ÿ


 
Posted : April 10, 2020 9:30 am
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Posted by: @stephen-ward

Overflows are typically cut on site?ÿ after the pond has been built and the engineer has looked at the as-built volume

Interesting approach, around here we just try and build them to match the plan design in the first place ?????ÿ

?ÿ


 
Posted : April 10, 2020 9:33 am
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What??ÿ No V-notch weirs?


 
Posted : April 10, 2020 9:37 am

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@holy-cow

I can work with those...engineering is like surveying in the PLSS (according to the occasional ornery Texan), all you need is the right "cookbook" ???? 


 
Posted : April 10, 2020 9:42 am
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Perhaps we are talking about two different things. But around here a storm drainage structure orifice is located on the bottom of a CMP tee inside of a MH and (here in the land or copious rainfall) is usually less than 2" diameter.?ÿ

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Posted : April 10, 2020 11:13 am
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I believe the OP was talking about the low flow orifice either the weir or riser for an old-school (at least around these parts) SWM extended detention pond.  Here it's designed to route the 2 year storm, so that the pre and post development runoff stays the same.   


 
Posted : April 10, 2020 11:42 am