Leon
There is a very small amount of money that goes out to the counties for PLSS corner perpetuation. So the money comes from the Feds (I believe) and gets to the county level which in my case contracts the work because we don't have an elected (licensed) county surveyor.
Whether I'm apathetic or not I can't judge. I probably do quite a bit of work where I don't really get paid fair value but I haven't gotten to the point where I go around doing it for free just for something to do. There are survey's I turn down because I know that just properly locating the PLSS will be a huge deal and there is no way the client can afford what really needs to be done to get it right. So they get it done by someone that doesn't care and goes proportion wild but that's not my problem. Sometimes it does feel good to mess up the math bangers just by simply finding the original corner though.
By saying I have no interest in the corner I meant I don't have a survey to complete that needs the corner location. My only interest is perpetuating the PLSS and of course the money (most of us need money to survive).
butch
How is anything he is doing apathetic? WTH man? He finds the corner, files the record, publishes coordinates on it. What the hell would else would you want him to do? How is resetting it where IT WAS apathetic?
Leon
Set it....or something. Is it still an open field used by a farmer? Does a new monument stand to get torn out again?
If so, I suggest that you talk to the farmer and suggest/request to go out and set the monument. Talk to him about how deep you could set it so it wouldn't interfere with his plowing and other work. I would bury the original stone if it is available and a ferrous monument as deep as the farmer requires, and set some kind of witness corners or ties in a location (regardless of how far away from the corner they fall) with ties to the buried monument. Explain it well enough on your monument record what you did and why.....and I would think that most surveyors will simply agree with you and your location. It would benefit everyone (except perhaps your time and materials cost).
Leon
While Holy Cow (Digger) makes an interesting (and thoughtful) comment above, I would NOT base my decision on that scenario alone.
¼ Corners USUALLY control (or influence) about 1280 acres in two Sections. If Joe Blow platted a Subdivision in one of these Sections, and used a prorated ¼ to subdivide that Section, it ISN'T the end of the world. Sure, some remedial action may (or may not) be in order, but that isn't YOUR problem (not really). You should of course contact Joe, and let him know the CURRENT situation, but I think that is the limit of your involvement and professional obligation.
To allow [say] a 40 acre subdivision to trump (control) the location/limits/boundaries of the other 1240 acres (and possibly SEVERAL OTHER owners of long standing), is NOT what “harmony” is all about.
This is an excellent example of the advantages of ACTUALLY having a County Surveyor in each County. I know of at least one county in Utah, where a phone call, or quick visit to the County Surveyor's Office, would get the two affected Sections bumped up towards the top of the to-do-list.
And what Tom said too, no point in setting something that will be gone/disturbed come Spring.
Loyal
butch
> How is anything he is doing apathetic? WTH man? He finds the corner, files the record, publishes coordinates on it. What the hell would else would you want him to do? How is resetting it where IT WAS apathetic?
Mea culpa. I'm all for perpetuation of PLSS corners in the original locations - in his previous post he sounded indifferent on whether or not it gets properly reestablished ("Probably should do it just so the corner doesn't become lost") Must of been the time of night I read it I guess.
butch
Ah, I see how you could get that. Mea Culpa as well. 🙂
Leon,
If the county won't pay you to put it back in, (and no, you shouldn't do that for free), how about filing a corner record or some other document with the county surveyors office stating what you found years ago, and maybe include the bearing & distance ties to your control points and/or other objects. Or just state on the corner record for interested persons to contact you. This at least would put future surveyors/landowners/etc. on notice that dang good, solid evidence of the original corner still exists, and they should at least put their silly proportion notions on hold.
