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(@lugeyser)
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So I found the FIS, seems to just be profile information. I've been looking for the cross sections...where would these be located? In the same report?

Thanks for your help.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 8:09 am
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The cross sections are on the FIRM and then their locations are referenced on the FIS Profile. The lines indicating a 1' change in BFE on the FIRM are not referenced on the FIS Profile.

You may find this helpful.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 8:33 am
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Now you quit taking projects you don't know how to do.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 9:52 am
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http://www.pdhonline.org/cgi-bin/quiz/courses/courselist.cgi?class_name=l130

Here's a link for understanding FIS.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 10:10 am
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Seems quite harsh and stupid. How else do you learn to do anything? Guess you were born knowing how to do everything.

I'm glad there are other people in the world who actually help each other instead of tearing people down. I guess that's the great thing about message boards that you can be obnoxious and anonymous all at the same time.

Truth is, I've learned a lot and tried to help a lot of people on this board. You should just stick to reading.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 5:01 pm
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I don't mind helping, and I've asked for help. What you have done is taken on a project that you cannot competently execute.

The point of licensure is to protect the public, not to enable you to learn on-the-fly at their expense.

For crying out loud, if I remeber correctly the EC instructions tell you to take the flood elevation from the profiles.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 5:11 pm
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Also, I regret that I must post anonymously, but company policy requires (or at least stronlgy encourages) it. That is the reason I usually refrain from engaging in combative discourse. Several on here know me personally.

I don't mean to single you out specifically, you may be the nicest guy in the world. As others have said, though, there is a difference between a profession and an area of expertise therein. For instance I know that I know nothing about PLSS, so I stay away from it.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 5:30 pm
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How to learn something new?

> The point of licensure is to protect the public, not to enable you to learn on-the-fly at their expense.

This is absolutely the case. The way to learn:
-practice under a competent mentor who is expert and experienced or,
-research and study or,
-take classes from a competent teacher and an expert.

This is why PDU or CE classes are kind of ironic to me. They rarely do what their name implies (open new areas of expertise and practice) . Usually they remind you of your areas of ignorance, and highlight the areas you need to work on.

IMHO

That being said, admitting ignorance of a situation or area, and submitting to your peer's comments is admirable, but perhaps this should be done prior to obtaining a client and project in that area of expertise.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 5:54 pm
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Ironically unprofessional.

But then again, what do I know - I'm still learning.

 
Posted : March 17, 2014 9:05 pm
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Thank you Matt for posting something I will definitely use. I apologize for my ignorance and yes...I understand that I'm over my head a little. Sometimes, you take on projects and think you've got a handle on them and find out you need help later.

Starting my business from scratch I do find myself in these situations sometimes where I have to stretch my horizons a little and gather the information needed to educate myself. That's not ideal, but it is reality.

 
Posted : March 18, 2014 4:44 am
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Well dangit now I feel bad for flaming you. I apologize, but the point does stand, and I would suggest having someone else with subject matter expertise look over your work before you call it final.

99% of the time, in areas with BFEs established, you will use the profiles for riverine flooding sources - and the tables for lacustrine sources.

Edit: I see you did previously, my bad again...

 
Posted : March 18, 2014 6:30 am
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Always use the profile, as it is the most accurate of the two (profile v. map panel).

 
Posted : March 18, 2014 10:10 am
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Correct, but sometimes local municipalities have performed more rigorous flood studies, in which case FEMA accepts this information if you can procure it. Also, the tables apply to lakes. Usually for lakes there are no profiles.

 
Posted : March 18, 2014 11:11 am