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NGS DATASHEET chuckle of the day.....

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Looking at my work week and making some plans incase there's some opportunities to collect data while doing other work.....

s1 Yaak

I want to meet the guy from 1963...?ÿ I wonder how he did in the stock market?

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 11:11 am
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I have a bumper sticker that I picked up in Yaak about 30years ago:

"I've been to the YAAK and back!"

"Yaak Mercantile?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ Yaak, Montana"

I think I was fishing the Yaak River at the time, working my way across Northern Montana and Idaho.

Loyal

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 11:42 am
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And just to round out the usual topic progression; here's a photo of some yaks we saw in the field the other day.

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Posted : 29/04/2018 12:40 pm
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Dang! He was good 😉

 TN0994_SATELLITE: THE SITE LOCATION WAS REPORTED AS SUITABLE FOR
 TN0994+SATELLITE: SATELLITE OBSERVATIONS - June 25, 1963

With clairvoyance like that, he didn't need to record tie distances. He could probably smell a monument.
Good luck to you in finding it with only that report to go on.
You might be able to find it using the X on the USGS topo map, relative to the bend in the river.

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 12:40 pm
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"....Yaak and back....." no mention of the Dirty Shame, huh.... 😉

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 1:44 pm
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"....Yaak and back....." no mention of the Dirty Shame, huh.... 😉

wut

"waiting moderation".... what the heck?!?!?!

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 1:48 pm
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The BM PID # is TN0994 (USGS Quad?ÿ YAAK 1963)

It needs to be located and a new description done on it (if it can be found). The road intersection is still there.

The old Cabin is gone.

I don't see what's so funny about this; for all you new surveyors They did have Satellite

Surveying?ÿ back before NAVSTAR-GPS. You might want to research Transit System

aka NAVSAT or NNSS (Navy Navigation Satellite System).

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JOHN NOLTON

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PS?ÿ NGS used Doppler positions in the adjustment of 1983

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 5:24 pm
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Although some agencies and the navy were working on use of satellites for positioning, I would be surprised if a USGS crew was thinking of that in 1963.

I suspect someone entered the suitability info in error.

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 8:24 pm
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Or maybe the BC-4 ballistic camera program. See:?ÿ http://adsbit.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?1965SSRv....4..236C&defaultprint=YES&filetype=.pdf

If that link doesnƒ??t work try?ÿ http://adsbit.harvard.edu//full/1965SSRv....4..236C/0000236.000.html

?ÿMore accessibly described here: http://www.palmerstation.com/history/6575/pageos.html

 
Posted : 29/04/2018 9:22 pm
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Interesting stuff, but I don't see any indication they had a camera in Montana to explain the data sheet notation.

 
Posted : 30/04/2018 6:32 pm
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Bill93?ÿ I suspect that someone entered the information about "SUITABLE FOR SATELLITE OBSERVATIONS"

after the fact.?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ ?ÿSo when did you start surveying?

As a Corporal in the U.S. Marine Corps in 1963 I can assure you, I and others were thinking

about Satellite surveying and how small the equipment would get. We joked about having a unit

that would be carried on the hip. If I and others were thinking about it in 1963 you can bet your bottom dollar USGS

was thinking of it as well as NGS (USC&GS then).

You might find 2 publications by NGS that will explain what was going on back then.

1.?ÿ Satellite Triangulation ( A New Satellite Tracking System For Use In Satellite Triangulation

And Related Geodetic Research; year 1962?ÿ (see GeeOddMike post above).

2. Satellite Triangulation in the Coast and Geodetic Survey, Technical Bulletin #24, 1965.

?ÿ

JOHN NOLTON

 
Posted : 30/04/2018 7:09 pm
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"....Yaak and back....." no mention of the Dirty Shame, huh.... 😉

I always thought the bar/tavern across the street from the Dirty Shame had better food. Although in the two weeks I spent there, we would bounce between the two for our "meals".

 
Posted : 04/05/2018 3:43 pm