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Working at a National Park property in New York and finding bronze disk set in rock outcrop marked "National Park Service". It appears to be a control point rather than a boundary mark. The site manager has older surveys of the property but no information concerning more recent survey work.

Does anyone know if the National Park Service maintains a central archive of survey projects done by or for the agency?

Thanks and regards,
Mike


 
Posted : April 2, 2015 8:30 pm
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Hi Mike,

I'm local to your area. If the NPS site you're working for is something related to the Roosevelt Estate on the same side of the street as the old Drive-In, it may be worth reaching out to Scenic Hudson for info.

I know that years ago Scenic Hudson was looking for boundary work around the drive-in, and the job requirements were to NPS standards including the setting of NPS monuments.

As for a depository of information, I'm sorry, I have no idea either other than what you have already been able to acquire.

Take care and good luck,
Kevin


 
Posted : April 3, 2015 2:22 am
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My primary background is with Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. They have their own records and as far as I know they are not elsewhere in some central repository.

Biggest problem is that every time they change staff people in the lands section knowledge gets lost.


 
Posted : April 3, 2015 3:13 am
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> Does anyone know if the National Park Service maintains a central archive of survey projects done by or for the agency?

try the Denver Service Center
Jim


 
Posted : April 3, 2015 5:43 am
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NPS

The island that I do most of my work on is mostly NPS.

They have no records available to the public.

There are disks and concrete monuments in a few places so they must have done some surveying many years ago but may or may not have lost all records.

There are encroachments on their property everywhere.

A few years ago a Park official called me to ask if I had a good source for survey markers. He said the markers he found on-line were all very expensive. I asked who would set them. He said they would have to hire a surveyor to show the park rangers where to put then. I tried to educate him...


 
Posted : April 3, 2015 6:17 am

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Any time federal lands are involved, the BLM is a good place to check.

Just a quick search turns up the following, but they may have more.

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/results/default.aspx?searchCriteria=type=survey|st=NY|cty=|styp=14


 
Posted : April 3, 2015 6:37 am
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As I stated above, the Denver service center would be the closest thing to a map depository for NPS as they handle all construction etc.
try http://www.nps.gov/dsc/


 
Posted : April 3, 2015 10:20 am
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File a Freedom Of Information Act request for their boundary information. If they say they don't have any information, they can't spring a survey on you down the road to dispute your survey. The rub is that they can charge you for research and copy costs.


 
Posted : April 3, 2015 2:57 pm
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Thanks for the link James!


 
Posted : April 4, 2015 7:08 am