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12 mile Marker between San Saba and McCulloch Counties. W.L. Hayes, County Surveyor of San Saba county, and Charles Harcourt, County Surveyor of McCulloch County, began the survey on August 26, 1885.

"At 12 miles a lime-stone pillar 3 feet high marked 50 mile San Saba & McCulloch County Line-set on the summit of a high hill from which the country can be see for many miles in all directions"

I cut a nylon strap off one of the bags and used the nylon to clean off the surface so we could make out the markings.

We tried to replace the rocks as close as to original as possible.

Proud day!


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 6:46 am
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And You Did Not Bury It Beneath Your Pin And Cap?

And no pink ribbon?

An explanation, please, of the 50 Mile Marker being at 12 Miles?

Paul in PA


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 7:23 am
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That's a dandy! But, where's the fence corner post????????

Both counties have more cattle than people, don't they?


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 8:09 am
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And You Did Not Bury It Beneath Your Pin And Cap?

> And no pink ribbon?
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> An explanation, please, of the 50 Mile Marker being at 12 Miles?
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> Paul in PA

LOL. No I wish to only restore and remeasure old monuments like this one. This property is a large ranch and I am doing the survey for another client. I did not want to mark up his pasture. I did take the ranch foreman out to the monument so that he will be able to tell the owner about it. I am hoping that by showing respect to the owner and the monument that I will be able to survey other such monuments on his other large ranches.

The survey was started at the southeast corner of San Saba county and the northeast corner of Llano county at the mouth of Fall Creek and the Colorado River, in the West line of Burnet county. They then ran 38 miles West to the southwest corner of San Saba county and then North with the line of Mason, McCulloch , and San Saba counties.

I am thinking that If I look at the rock and clean it off more, that I will be able to find "S.S. &" written above the "Mc C".

What are your thoughts on the preservation of historical monumentation. I am hoping that I have not messed it up too much and that the land owner will want it restored and preserved to an even greater extent.

this is the mound that I found "at 8 miles 840 varas to a stone mound on the brink of the precipice on the South side of San Saba river 200 varas S 74° W of the N.E. corner of the W.R. Hext Pre-emption."

These things really make me enjoy my job.


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 8:45 am
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McCulloch County population is about 8300. San Saba is probably pretty close to the same. I am guessing there is about ten to fifteen times that many cattle on the conservative side.


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 8:52 am

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And You Did Not Bury It Beneath Your Pin And Cap?

I'd say you did just fine. I would suggest that you carry wire brushes with you. some for soft stone and some for harder types. Use them just for cleaning off the dirt and moss that get on the rocks. Careful not to brush out the marks. They work better than nylon for cleaning.

You did forget the dot. How will anyone know where to locate the stone?;-)


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 8:53 am
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A Set Of Steel, Bronze And Plastic Bristles.

And a gentle hand.

One "S" does appear visible in the darker photo photo.

Around here at most we find are some set stones. Week before last I was on a survey with another surveyor. I ribboned up a 2' tall set stone and was admonished by the other surveyor for not seeing the hole he had put on top years ago on an adjoining survey. Coming from two set corners from an adjacent survey on the other side we had a 0.2' error in deed distance. I ribbed him that it appears he mismarked for the hole. That ribbon will disappear on the walk through, probably never to be looked for again.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 11:43 am
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A tragedy in my past

Probably 25 years ago, another surveyor found a center of section stone set in the 1860's that had apparently never been mentioned as "found" in any later surveys. This fell not far from the center of a small town, population 600 or so. This was the center of the north line of the original town. An addition to the town about 20 years after the setting of the monument had this as a corner of the plat, but, no "found" marker was mentioned. As chance would have it, the same person owned the tracts on all sides of that monument when he found the stone 25 years ago so it happened to be in an area used for a garden. The surveyor tied it out very well, strung flagging all over it and added a couple of wire flags just to make sure it could be more easily found by future surveyors. About three years later I came along doing a survey that needed to tie to that monument. Guess what? That baby was gone gone gone. No one, especially the landowner, would admit to being the cause of its disappearance. Apparently limestone can evaporate/sublimate when exposed to oxygen and sunlight.


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 4:08 pm
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And You Did Not Bury It Beneath Your Pin And Cap?

Yes! Way to go.


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 4:15 pm
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And You Did Not Bury It Beneath Your Pin And Cap?

> And no pink ribbon?
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> An explanation, please, of the 50 Mile Marker being at 12 Miles?
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> Paul in PA

and that is why things seem bigger in Tejas.... 😀


 
Posted : October 6, 2013 6:26 pm

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A tragedy in my past

So inquiry minds want to know, did you run any static sessions on it to preserve its' position?


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 7:55 am
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> So inquiry minds want to know, did you run any static sessions on it to preserve its' position?

I have several control points with good state plane coords around the counties. I did shoot this monument with RTK from two different bases with several check nails shot at the same time. I do run rtk and infill at my bases so that I can check things if something looks funny. I am pretty confident that my control points are good enough that I can say that I have a state plane coord for the monument.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 8:59 am
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A tragedy in my past

I did shoot this monument with RTK from two different bases with several check nails shot at the same time.

:good: :good:


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 10:53 am
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A tragedy in my past

For whom do you work in that area? I live in Brady


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 12:25 pm
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> 12 mile Marker between San Saba and McCulloch Counties. W.L. Hayes, County Surveyor of San Saba county, and Charles Harcourt, County Surveyor of McCulloch County, began the survey on August 26, 1885.
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> "At 12 miles a lime-stone pillar 3 feet high marked 50 mile San Saba & McCulloch County Line-set on the summit of a high hill from which the country can be see for many miles in all directions"

You found a lime-stone pillar in the middle of nowhere out there? When I worked out there it seemed like everywhere I looked there was limestone. At least you didn't have to try to drive a rod in some dolomite. Great find though.


 
Posted : October 8, 2013 6:38 am

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A tragedy in my past

I work for SKG Engineering out of San Angelo. I live in Brady. Where is your office?


 
Posted : October 8, 2013 8:36 am