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I found this today while retracing a subdivision from 1952. Plat calls for "3/4" iron rods" at lot corners. One other lot corner had a head like this, and the others that I found appeared to have heads broken off. I don't know how long it is, but it felt solid. The stem is smooth, not ribbed. This photo shows #5 and #6 rebars for reference.

I've never seen one of these before. What is this thing?


 
Posted : January 30, 2017 10:11 pm
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could it be a tamper? for compacting alongside fence posts? I see them in hardware stores occasionally.


 
Posted : January 30, 2017 10:29 pm
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Strange. It appears to be deformed or swaged deliberately.

I have seen similar ends on cross braced turnbuckles from girder structures, but not curved on its seating surface. I bet it's a piece of salvage that wound up doing eternity as a property pin.


 
Posted : January 30, 2017 10:37 pm
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If it is solid, we would refer to it as a timber bolt. I can't tell from the picture. If it is, it may be threaded further down. It also may have two or three ribs under the mushroom to bit into the wood.


 
Posted : January 30, 2017 10:41 pm
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The end looks to have been heated and rolled back to form a cap.


 
Posted : January 30, 2017 10:54 pm

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The closest thing to that I can think of is a railroad crosstie spike. It definitely is not one of those. They do have a wide, circular top that is thicker in the center than near the edges. But, not like what is shown.

This reminds me of a subdivision with rear axles, including the lug bolts, used as lot corners. The surveyor was also the operator of a car salvage business.


 
Posted : January 30, 2017 10:58 pm
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Around here it would be labeled as "FIP" or "IPF".


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 5:35 am
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Timber or dock bolt. Around here you might find them near old canal locks or RR trestles, along the river in NYC or Philly. Came across a few along the Morris Canal.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 6:14 am
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Sergeant Schultz, post: 411672, member: 315 wrote: Around here it would be labeled as "FIP" or "IPF".

Yup that's it!


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 6:31 am
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Thanks, guys. Maybe I'll just go with 3/4" iron rod. Although it does look more like 5/8".


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 10:07 am

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Where abouts are you located? Planting Pins in frozen ground, gravel etc here can do that. Sometimes, sledgehammering an Iron pin into such a surface causes the head to mushroom, especially when using a Pjonjar or Atlas Cobra to drive it in. In winter time in Canada, planting an IP can take about 20 minutes of pounding before it goes in.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 10:23 am
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I don't think the mushroomed top is from installation. There were two of them that I found that were the same shape. The top is rounded and there is a lip around the edge that is curved up. I'll try to get a better picture if I go back. Original plat is dated April, so the soil should have been soft.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 10:54 am
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Looks to be a homemade monument.

Maybe a large hot rivet head welded onto the end of a very old/corroded piece of re-bar?

Looks like something that would be driven into the ground to hold a parking stop or driven through pieces of cribbed timber.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 11:11 am
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Champion Paper Company made us set monuments that look very much like that. They were 1/2" or 5/8" shafts with a 2" domed head and the last 6 or 8 inches was threaded like a VERY large carriage bolt. So, we called them timber carriage bolts.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 2:56 pm
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Kris Morgan, post: 411753, member: 29 wrote: Champion Paper Company made us set monuments that look very much like that. They were 1/2" or 5/8" shafts with a 2" domed head and the last 6 or 8 inches was threaded like a VERY large carriage bolt. So, we called them timber carriage bolts.

http://www.portlandbolt.com/products/bolts/timber/


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 3:09 pm

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I'm curious as from Down Under it looks like a domed headed spike (railway) in a pipe with a square top.
What's that squared partial rim just under the domed bit? Looks like a slight gap at the corner of square section.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 3:37 pm
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I'm curious about the 2 rebar alongside...


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 3:40 pm
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Jim in AZ, post: 411771, member: 249 wrote: I'm curious about the 2 rebar alongside...

He added those for size comparison


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 3:46 pm
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[USER=833]@Richard[/USER]

That is squared to "seat" the bolt into the wood to keep it in place and from rotating.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 3:53 pm
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Almost looks like a railroad spike pounded into a pipe.


 
Posted : January 31, 2017 4:06 pm

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