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Multiple Markers: Failure to Rehab

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(@kent-mcmillan)
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Here's yet another variation on an old theme: multiple markers supposedly marking the same corner.

This one is novel in that the 1/2 in. iron rod at the left supposedly marks the same point that the 1-1/2 in. iron pipe on the right does. "How can this be?" you ask.

Well, the pipe was apparently laying over at about a 40° angle off plumb when the rod was set to mark where the pipe would be if stood up. But when a surveyor came along to actually stand the pipe up (it took some doing), the rod wasn't all that close. So now there is a 1/2 in. iron rod marking where someone once thought the 1-1/2 in. iron pipe might be and ... where the 1-1/2 iron pipe is.

 
Posted : November 4, 2010 4:29 pm
(@alan-cook)
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That, in my opinion, is just piss poor.

You would think that if someone took the time to estimate where the pipe would be if plumb that you would have disturbed the iron rod as you dug up and actually plumbed the pipe, no? Or is there more to the story than meets the eye?

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 4:06 am
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> You would think that if someone took the time to estimate where the pipe would be if plumb that you would have disturbed the iron rod as you dug up and actually plumbed the pipe, no? Or is there more to the story than meets the eye?

No, we were able to plumb the pipe without disturbing the 1/2 in. rebar. In fairness, it took some healthy exercise to plumb the 48 in. pipe, and I'm sure that was why the rebar folks didn't do it.

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 5:40 am
(@kris-morgan)
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The other day, I found a bent 1" iron pipe. This is some of that really thick wall stuff. Well, after 20 minutes, I finally got the sucker spun and up. There was no straightening the pipe. So I shot the hole it came out of, replaced the pipe and noted in the field notes and on the plat that it was shot where it went in the ground (in better terms obviously).

I'd have never done what you show in the picture though.

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 6:29 am
(@moe-shetty)
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i have never seen a pipe mushroomed that uniformly

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 6:42 am
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> The other day, I found a bent 1" iron pipe. This is some of that really thick wall stuff. Well, after 20 minutes, I finally got the sucker spun and up. There was no straightening the pipe.

If you carry a hacksaw in your truck, you'll find that it can be a highly effective way of straightening a pipe.

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 6:57 am
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> i have never seen a pipe mushroomed that uniformly

Yes, it impressed me as well. The pipe was 48 inches long and took quite a bit of pounding, evidently to drive it into the stiff clay. We found two other pipes set by that same survey that looked almost identical.

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 6:59 am
(@matt-lewandowski)
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Up in the Buckeye State we refer to those pipe as "petaled" like a flower. Old timey surveyors used to "petal the pipe" for markers set along a line, but not at a property corner.

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 10:24 am
(@kevin-samuel)
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Any bets that the next surveyor will reject the pipe, rebar and accept the PVC lath as the "true corner"?

😉

 
Posted : November 5, 2010 1:00 pm