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Lambert meets Limon: An LDP at a CBL with a Quiz at the End

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Among the items on the NGS datum revision agenda for 2022 is an offer to develop Low Distortion Projections (LDPs) as requested by individual states. Covering relatively small areas (NGS has formulated rules for this), they are likely to be tangent projections instead of the secant projections used for both NAD 83 and NAD 27 state planes.

One way to explore tangent LDPs is to develop one and compare some ground measurements to grid distances. Since Calibration Base Lines have published measured distances and sometimes have NGS data sheets for their marks, they are a convenient resource. To be a good candidate, the CBL must also have been measured recently and it must be at an elevation that makes state plane grid distances significantly different from ground distances.

The Limon, Colorado CBL meets those criteria. Its marks have NGS data sheets containing NAD 83(2011) coordinates and the ellipsoid height of CBL 0 is 1610.152 meters. It was re-measured in 2014.

The marks are CBL 0 (KJ0588), CBL 400 (KJ0593), and CBL 1400 (KJ0594). The 1400 mark is listed as destroyed, but the data sheet is still available. Also, a 150 mark is listed in the CBL data, but there is no data sheet for it.

The grid origin for the Limon CBL LDP is CBL 0. The LDP is developed in accordance with the Lambert presentation in NGS Manual 5, modified to accommodate a single standard parallel.

For the projection to be tangent to the ground at CBL 0, the combined factor (CF) at that point has to equal one. The combined factor is the product of the elevation factor (EF) and the scale factor (SF). The elevation factor on the data sheet for CBL 0 is 0.99974744, so the scale factor can be computed:

CF = EF * SF

1 = 0.99974744 * SF

SF = 1/0.99974744 = 1.00025262380

Rounding the scale factor to 1.0002526 makes the distortion at the grid origin -0.020 parts per million with no effect on the Northing and Eastings of the points, so the practical effect is nil. However, the additional digits were helpful in eliminating system bugs, so I kept them.

Table 1 compares the mapping constants for the Limon CBL LDP to those of the Colorado state plane Central Zone 0502. Some of the defining constants for the state plane projection are computed constants for the LDP and vice versa. The table is in the current NGS format for a Lambert state plane, with the exceptions marked by bold print and asterisks.

The Colorado projection is defined by the standard parallels, Bs and Bn; the true projection origin, Bb; the longitude of  the central meridian, Lo; the Northing at the true projection origin, Nb; and the Easting for the central meridian, Eo. Values for these numbers were selected by NGS.

The Limon projection is defined by the latitude of its central parallel, Bo; the scale factor at the central parallel, ko; the longitude of the central meridian, Lo; the Northing for the grid origin, No; and the Easting for the central meridian, Eo. Values for these constants were selected by the author.

Table 1. Comparison of Constants for Limon CBL LDP and Colorado Zone 0502
Defining Constants
Limon CBL LDP Colorado Central Zone 0502
Bs= NA 38:27
Bn= NA 39:45
Bb= 39:02:35.78945* 37:50
Lo= 103:39:50.67931 105:30
Nb= 0.0000 304,800.6096
Eo= 100,000.0000 914,401.8289
         Computed Constants
Limon CBL LDP Colorado Central Zone 0502
Bo=   39.2684051778** 39.1010150117
SinBo= 0.632954054800 0.630689555225
Rb= 7,838,789.7339 7,998,699.7391
Ro= 7,813,789.7340 7,857,977.9317
No=   25,000.0000** 445,522.4170
K= 12,498,366.6842 12,518,269.8410
ko=   1.00025262380** 0.999935909777
Mo= 6,362,619.2189 6,360,421.3434
ro= 6,375,457 6,373,316

*Computed constant.  **Defining constant. NA means Not Applicable.

The Limon CBL LDP could have been designed by using Bb, the true grid origin, as a defining constant. Using a value such as 39:03 would have cleaned up the constants somewhat. However, doing that while preserving No = 25,000 would have required making Nb a computed constant, equal to 746.7963. Cleaning up one constant can dirty up another.

Thus, there are options and trade-offs inherent in the LDP design process. Taking one more step into the details, note that defining Bb as 39:02 while keeping everything else the same would make Nb negative.

LDP coordinates and more

Table 2 compares the LDP coordinates of the Limon CBL marks to the Colorado state plane coordinates for those marks. Note that, in the LDP, each point has a unique combined factor just as it does in the state plane. This is one of the ways that an LDP differs from the application of a project-wide combined factor. Grid distances computed from LDP coordinates will be very close to ground distances, but they can be made even closer by applying state plane distance computation procedures to them.

Table 2.  Comparison of Coordinates Limon CBL LDP and Zone 0502
CBL 0 Limon CBL LDP CO State Plane
Latitude 39?ø 16' 06.25864" 39?ø 16' 06.25864"
Longitude 103?ø 39' 50.67931" 103?ø 39' 50.67931"
Northing 25,000.000 465,705.526
Easting 100,000.000 1,072,818.305
Scale Factor 1.0002526238 0.99994016
Elev. Fact. 0.99974744 0.99974744
Comb. Factor 1.00000000 0.99968762
Distortion, ppm 0.000 -312.380
Convergence 0?ø 00' 0.0" 1?ø 09' 28.4"
CBL 400 Limon CBL LDP CO State Plane
Latitude 39?ø 16' 19.01815" 39?ø 16' 19.01815"
Longitude 103?ø 39' 53.69975" 103?ø 39' 53.69975"
Northing 25,393.591 466,097.450
Easting 99,927.580 1,072,737.972
Scale Factor 1.00025263 0.99994035
Elev. Fact. 0.99974717 0.99974717
Comb. Factor 0.99999973 0.99968754
Distortion, ppm -0.270 -312.460
Convergence ƒ?? 0?ø 00' 1.9" 1?ø 09' 26.5"
CBL 1400 Limon CBL LDP CO State Plane
Latitude 39?ø 16' 50.90323" 39?ø 16' 50.90323"
Longitude 103?ø 40' 01.24918" 103?ø 40' 01.24918"
Northing 26,377.150 467,076.846
Easting 99,746.603 1,072,537.218
Scale Factor 1.00025265 0.99994082
Elev. Fact. 0.99974618 0.99974618
Comb. Factor 0.99999876 0.99968702
Distortion, ppm -1.240 -312.980
Convergence ƒ?? 0?ø 00' 6.7" 1?ø 09' 21.8"

Other noteworthy items in Table 2 are the differences in magnitude of the LDP and state plane coordinates, the distortion values, and the convergence angles for the two projections. The LDP is designed for a very small area, so large-magnitude coordinates are not necessary. However, the state plane convention of having Eastings much larger than Northings is maintained. The LDP distortion values indicate that grid distances will be very close to ground distances. Convergence is a function of the difference between a pointƒ??s longitude and the central meridian for some given latitude, so the LDP convergence angles are guaranteed to be nearer to zero.

Verifying distances and azimuths

Table 3 shows distances and azimuths for the points on the Limon CBL. Published distances can be verified at https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/CBLINES/BASELINES/co .

 Table 3. Distances and Azimuths
Limon CBL
Distances in Meters
Coordinates Grid Distance, Limon CBL LDP Published Distance
Point Northing Easting From CBL 0 From CBL 400 From CBL 0 From CBL 400
CBL 0 25,000.000 100,000.000 -- -- -- --
CBL 400 25,393.591 99,927.580 400.1981 -- 400.1971 --
CBL 1400 26,377.150 99,746.603 1,400.2686 1,000.0705 1,400.2719 1,000.0747
Azimuths Arc-to-Chord (T ƒ?? t)
From To Grid Azimuth Geodetic Azimuth Decimal Grid Az f3 T ƒ?? t (Seconds)
CBL 0 CBL 400 349?ø 34' 27.4664" 349?ø 34' 27.5976" 349.5742962 39.26958661 -6.697E-09
CBL 0 CBL 1400 349?ø 34' 26.8662" 349?ø 34' 26.8660" 349.5741351 39.27253894 -8.200E-08
CBL 400 CBL 1400 349?ø 34' 26.5725" 349?ø 34' 24.6614" 349.5740707 39.27490181 -9.204E-08

Grid distances are within millimeters of the published ground distances. The largest difference, 4.2 mm, is from CBL 400 to CBL 1400. Thatƒ??s accuracy of about 1 : 238,000.

Examining the azimuths is instructive. Geodetic azimuths change over the course of the line, illustrating that geodetic lines do not have constant azimuths. Grid azimuths, adjusted for convergence, are close to geodetic azimuths.

A shortcut to an LDP

Software that can handle .prj files makes computing LDP coordinates easy, but it doesnƒ??t duplicate rigorous development of an LDP. While the software generates both forward and inverse coordinates, it may not display scale and elevation factors for the points nor the computed constants associated with the projection.

Nevertheless, here is a .prj for the Limon CBL LDP that works in DNRGPS and, perhaps, some other GIS and surveying systems. The defining constants from Table 1 are easily recognizable.

PROJCS["Lambert_Conformal_Conic",

GEOGCS["GCS_GRS 1980(IUGG, 1980)",

DATUM["D_unknown",

SPHEROID["GRS80",6378137,298.257222101]],

PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],

UNIT["Degree",0.017453292519943295]],

PROJECTION["Lambert_Conformal_Conic"],

PARAMETER["latitude_of_origin",39.268405177778],

PARAMETER["central_meridian",-103.66407758611],

PARAMETER["scale_factor",1.0002526238],

PARAMETER["false_easting",100000],

PARAMETER["false_northing",25000],

UNIT["Meter",1],

PARAMETER["standard_parallel_1",39.268405177778]]

Takeaways

My major takeaway from this project was the importance of the interplay between defining constants and computed constants for Lambert projections. The classifications and the values of the defining constants are design decisions that need careful consideration.

For 2022 secant Lambert state planes, NGS is changing the scale factor from a calculated constant to a defining constant. As a result, the two standard parallels become calculated constants. Knowing their values is neither necessary nor particularly useful and they wonƒ??t be nice round numbers, so they wonƒ??t be published.

The Northing at the true projection origin might be viewed in the same light. Changing it from a defining constant to a calculated constant would allow the choice of a nice round number for the Northing at the grid origin.

Exercises

Having read this far, perhaps you would consider doing a little work. The first exercise is easy; the last two are for folks who want to learn a bit more.  The reward for correct answers is personal satisfaction. There is no penalty for incorrect ones, but shame on you if you donƒ??t at least do the first one.

  1. Determine both the LDP and the geographic coordinates of CBL 150.
  2. The Limon CBL is located at the Limon Municipal Airport (KLIC). The geodetic coordinates for the runway ends are 39-16-52.0738N, 103-40-02.5391W and 39-16-06.3973N, 103-39-51.7492W. The slope length of the runway is 4700 feet, rounded or truncated to feet, whichever the FAA requires. What are the Limon CBL LDP coordinates of the runway ends? What is the grid distance from runway end to runway end? Why is the geodetic distance more than a foot different from the grid distance? (Hint: Use the .prj file.)
  3. The Limon CBL LDP optimizes grid versus ground near the Limon Municipal Airport. To judge  its performance at some distance from its grid origin, determine Limon CBL LDP coordinates for KJ0231 and KJ0524 and find the LDP grid distance between them. Then use Colorado state plane coordinates and combined factors for the points to compute the ground distance between the two points. (Is the simple mean of the scale factors adequate?)  Is the Limon CBL LDP sufficiently accurate for this computation?
  4. Modify the .prj file given in the text to create an LDP that is tangent to the ground at KJ0524. What is the scale factor for the new LDP? the plane coordinates of Limon CBL 0?

More resources:

DNRGPS. A software package originally developed by Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, but now in the public domain. Designed to collect data from Garmin GPS receivers, it works with many other brands, including some survey grade receivers. It can transform coordinates using its extensive library of projection data and it accepts custom projections. Sometimes a bit temperamental, it is nonetheless a great little system. https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mis/gis/DNRGPS/DNRGPS.html

ESRI Support. Hereƒ??s a bit more about .prj files.   https://support.esri.com/en/technical-article/000001897

Krakiwsky, E. J. Conformal Map Projections in Geodesy. http://www2.unb.ca/gge/Pubs/LN37.pdf

Explains the mysterious Qs, Qn, and Qo in Stemƒ??s publication and a host of other stuff.

Stem, James E. State Plane Coordinate System of 1983.. https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/library/pdfs/NOAA_Manual_NOS_NGS_0005.pdf

Note: Two necessary calculated constants for a Lambert projection are K and Ro, the mapping radii at the equator and the central meridian, respectively. Modifying secant state plane projections to single parallel projections can be accomplished by rewriting two equations on page 28 of this publication.

Since k0 is a defining constant for the single parallel projection, the equation that calculates its value (the second equation on the page) can be solved for Ro:

Ro = (k0*a)/(w0*tan(phi0))

Then solve the first equation on the page for K:

K = Ro*exp(Qo*sin(phi0))

With these constants calculated, the forward and inverse formulas can be used as written. These values are determined by GIS software from the information in the .prj file, but they can be calculated in spreadsheet implementations.

 
Posted : May 2, 2019 8:14 am
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The answers to problem 1 are:

Easting = 99,972.856 meters; Northing = 25,147.523 meters;
Longitude = 103?ø 39ƒ?? 51.81138ƒ?; Latitude = 39?ø 16ƒ?? 11.04107ƒ?

Any cogo routine will calculate the grid values, but whereƒ??s the fun in that? Trig is also effective, but plane geometry is more elegant because it uses only distances and known coordinates to obtain a solution.

The grid length of the CBL is 1,400.2686 meters and we want the coordinates of the point on the CBL that is 150 meters from CBL 0. Thus, the distance from CBL 0 to CBL 150 is 150/1400.2686 of the total length of the CBL. Plane geometry tells us that the x and y coordinates of CBL 150 are each that same fractional distance between the coordinates of CBL 0 and CBL 1400.

So, the plane coordinates of CBL 150 are:

E = (150*99,746.603 + (1.400.2686 ƒ?? 150)*100,000) / 1,400.2686 = 99,972.856 meters,
N = (150*26,377.150 + (1,400.2686 -150)*25,000) / 1,400.2686 = 25,147.523 meters.

Note that the same process can be used to check the collinearity of CBL 400 with CBL 0 and CBL 1400.
The longitude and latitude of CBL 150 can be computed from the plane coordinates by GIS or surveying software, but thatƒ??s not very instructive. Instead, letƒ??s use the NGS forward program and let the GIS software be our check.

The average elevation factor of the CBL is 0.99974681, so a ground distance of 150 meters is an ellipsoid distance of 0.99974681*150, or 149.9620 meters. The geodetic azimuth from CBL 0 to CBL 1400 is 349?ø 34ƒ?? 26.8660ƒ?. Entering these parameters, along with the geographic coordinates of CBL 0, into NGS FORWARD gives the following coordinates for CBL 150:

Longitude = 103?ø 39ƒ?? 51.81138ƒ?, Latitude = 39?ø 16ƒ?? 11.04107ƒ?.

DNRGPS produces the identical result when the plane coordinates are ƒ??unprojected.ƒ?

 
Posted : May 9, 2019 2:02 pm
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Nice post M.T.  I am not a fan of LDP so I have not gone over this very good. I did notice 2 things;

Under your first post "A shortcut to an LDP" Minnesota uses the word SPHEROID. You might want to

call them and tell them its ELLIPSOID. In your second post calculating "E" you have 1.400.2686

You might want to correct the first decimal point to a comma before somebody jumps on you for that.

See your "N" entry just below it.

 

JOHN NOLTON

 

 

 
Posted : May 13, 2019 6:49 pm
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Spheroid is fine. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/spheroid

Interesting that you are "not a fan of LDP."  Do you prefer High Distortion Projections?

 
Posted : May 13, 2019 7:59 pm
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Thanks, John. My old rheumy eyes are getting older and rheumier.

We see one of the objections to LDPs in problem 4, where we create a second, overlapping LDP. But overlapping coordinate systems exist outside the LDP world as well, with state borders and modified ground coordinates being just two examples. Having NGS create wider-area projections may prove very useful in this regard. I can envision one that crosses state lines in the Charlotte, NC - Rock Hill, SC area.

There are no panaceas in modeling the earth's surface, but there are tools. LDPs are just one of them.

 
Posted : May 14, 2019 8:29 am

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The usage of spheroid by Minnesota may come from using Esri software. That's what Esri was using when I started in 1994. I believe they got it from DMA as I've found that terminology in their documents from that time.

 

Melita

 
Posted : May 14, 2019 3:23 pm
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The word spheroid comes from the UK. When the UK say spheroid they mean ellipsoid of revolution. The math as you know,

clearly is an ellipsoid . The governing body that controls the size and shape of the ellipsoid calls it Ellipsoid. Also I would like to

point out that governing body has their international meeting in several months and I do believe we will have some NEW

ellipsoidal constants (small changes but a change). Yes I do think Esri used spheroid and many others. Old habits die hard.

Of course USC&GS used spheroid (Clarke spheroid 1866 and others).

 

JOHN NOLTON

 

 

 
Posted : May 14, 2019 9:40 pm
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I'll have to agree that a great many English words come from England.  Spheroid seems to have essentially the same meaning here and there.  American Heritage Dictionary https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=spheroid and Defense Mapping Agency, as Melita notes http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/publications/tm8358.1/tr83581a.html .  Much like the Oxford definition above.

As you note, the word ellipsoid is now more commonly used.  But spheroid is a technically accurate term for the ellipsoids we commonly use for survey datums.

 
Posted : May 14, 2019 11:46 pm
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This one started as an Iowa Regional Coordinate System .prj, which is an Esri file that uses the word "spheroid." I don't remember which one I used, but here's the one named Spencer:

PROJCS["IaRCS_01_Spencer_NAD_1983_2011_LCC_US_Feet",GEOGCS["GCS_NAD_1983_2011",DATUM["D_NAD_1983_2011",SPHEROID["GRS_1980",6378137.0,298.257222101]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0.0],UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]],PROJECTION["Lambert_Conformal_Conic"],PARAMETER["False_Easting",11500000.0],PARAMETER["False_Northing",9600000.0],PARAMETER["Central_Meridian",-95.25],PARAMETER["Standard_Parallel_1",43.2],PARAMETER["Standard_Parallel_2",43.2],PARAMETER["Scale_Factor",1.000052],PARAMETER["Latitude_Of_Origin",43.2],UNIT["Foot_US",0.3048006096012192]]

I substituted the Limon constants for the Iowa ones, including changing the foot conversion to meters, and changed its name. DNRGPS searches its library for an existing projection that duplicates the one it was fed. In this case, it found one, and you can see the differences in the datum definitions. For publication, I used the DNRGPS version instead of going back to my modified IRCS version, to create less confusion for anyone who wanted to use it.

The IRCS .prj files contain both Lambert and Transverse Mercator projections and can be found here: https://iowadot.gov/iarcs/?ÿ

According to Moritz, the GRS80 ellipsoid is an equipotential ellipsoid of revolution, so, perhaps, spheroid is not a total misnomer. His paper is here: ftp://athena.fsv.cvut.cz/ZFG/grs80-Moritz.pdf

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Posted : May 15, 2019 4:36 am
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The solutions to Problem 2 are:

Runway 16 coordinates (meters): 26,413.260N, 99,715.680E
Runway 34 coordinates (meters):25,004.277N, 99,974.346E
Grid distance: 1,432.530 meters, 4,699.89 feet
Ellipsoidal distance from NGS INVERSE: 1,432.1677 meters, 4,698.704 feet

The grid distance is greater than the ellipsoidal distance because, in keeping with its design, the LDP plane is above the ellipsoid.

The published slope length of the runway is 4,700 feet, rounded to the nearest foot. Grid distance is a horizontal distance, so the two are not directly comparable. However, the elevation difference between the runway ends is 25.8 feet, from:

https://nfdc.faa.gov/nfdcApps/services/ajv5/airportDisplay.jsp?airportId=klic

Using that number, the grid distance converts to a slope distance of 4,699.96 feet, but the magnitude of the rounding in the published length is still unknown, so the accuracy of the grid distance canƒ??t be confirmed by this measured distance.

 
Posted : May 16, 2019 7:18 am

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The answers to Problem 3 are:

Limon CBL LDP Coordinates in meters:

KJ0231: 26,639.255N, 90,083.433E
KJ0524: 17,242.721N, 97,242.883E

Grid distance = 11,829.152 meters

CO State Plane ground distance:

11,829.244 meters, from simple average of scale factors
11,829.246 meters, from Simpsonƒ??s Rule average of scale factors

LDP distortion: -8 ppm

The adequacy of both the LDP grid distance and the simple average state plane ground distance computation are matters of professional judgement.

A note on scale factors

Various algorithms and formulas exist for calculating scale factors for points on Lambert planes, but there is one mathematical concept that underlies them all. That inescapable concept is that the scale factor is a periodic function of latitude that is continuous over the domain { ‹??90?ø < Latitude < 90?ø }. For every point, even those infinitesimally close to each other, there is a unique scale factor.

For the Limon CBL LDP, that function is:
f(x) = 1.240313883371*(((1+0.081819191042832*sin(x))/(1-0.081819191042832*sin(x)))^0.081819191042832/((1+sin(x))/(1-sin(x))))^(0.632954054800/2)*(1-0.081819191042832^2*sin(x)^2)^(1/2)/cos(x)

where f(x) is the scale factor and x is the latitude of the point. The numbers 1.2403ƒ?? ,0.6329ƒ?? , and 0.0818 are constants calculated to simplify the function a bit. The first one is K*sin(phi0)/a where K and phi0 are constants for the projection and a is the semi-major of the GRS80 ellipsoid. The second one is sin(phi0)) and the third one is the eccentricity of the GRS80 ellipsoid.

Pasting the right-hand side of the function into the functions section of this Zweig Media site will let you see the functionƒ??s graph and also evaluate the scale factor for any latitude for the Limon CBL LDP: https://www.zweigmedia.com/SVGGrapher/func.php Just remember to enter latitudes in radians.

Going a bit further, the continuous nature of the scale factor function over the domain relevant to a map projection is the source of the use of Simpsonƒ??s rule for the most accurate computation of the average scale factor of a line. Simpsonƒ??s rule is a numerical approximation to a definite integral of a function. The definite integral calculates the area between the graph of the function and the x-axis over the domain of the integral.

The average value of a continuous function over a given domain is a definite integral divided by the length of the domain. Intuitively, we are dividing an area by a length to get another length. In the case of the average scale factor, we are dividing an area by the difference of two latitudes. Symbolically, for Simpsonƒ??s Rule with two intervals, it looks like this, where the xƒ??s are latitudes in radians:

SimpsonRuleScaleFactor LimonLDP

Sometimes Simpsonƒ??s Rule is used to calculate an average combined factor, the product of a scale factor and an elevation factor. But the use of this rule for calculating average scale factors comes from the functional nature of the scale factor and integral calculus. Elevation factors follow no such functional rule. Thus, the most accurate combined factor is the product of a Simpsonƒ??s Rule average scale factor and a simple average of the elevation factors.

 
Posted : May 22, 2019 1:36 pm
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MathTeacher; I have printed out your post on LDP and have some things for you to consider.

You say "One way to explore tangent LDPs is to develop one and compare some ground measurements to grid distances".

I disagree with that. I think you should give the theory with nice drawings FIRST and then give some problems. You did give some problems.

So to help you with that I will give you 3 references to start with ( of course the Internet has a lot).

Ref. #1?ÿ "The flat Earth Concept in Local Surveys"?ÿ by T. Vincenty (who by the way was a member of the flat earth society, just for laughs).

(Surveying and Mapping, Vol. 49, No.2,1989, pp. 101-102

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Ref. #2 "A Fresh Look at Tangent Plane Grids" by Joe?ÿ F. Dracup?ÿ in Surveying and Land Information Systems,

Vol. 58, No. 4, 1998, pp. 205-221

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Ref. #3 "Design of a Local Coordinate System for Surveying, Engineering, and LIS/GIS?ÿ by Earl F. Burkholder

in Surveying and Land Information Systems, Vol. 53, No. 1, 1993, pp. 29-40 and a correction to this paper in the same journal

Vol. 56, No. 2 June 1996, p. 119.

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Under your paper 11 lines down from "A shortcut to an LDP"

Units["Degree", 0.017453292519943295]], this last digit of "5" is correct if it is?ÿ ?ÿTRUNCATED. Do you know

if this is the way Esri does things? This # would be 5769... which would round to 6

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Look forward to your "NEW Paper"

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JOHN NOLTON

 
Posted : May 26, 2019 10:03 pm
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Thanks for the comments, John. The easy one to address is the degree-radian factor, which, according to the calculator in my Pixel 2, is truncated at 16 significant digits. I suspect that the number has proven adequate, but it is an interesting note.

For the most part, the references you cited are inaccessible to me; i don't have proper credentials. I have read Earl Burkholder's paper I think, but not the others. The only reference needed for this effort is James Stem's manual 5 which is freely available on the internet. The Lambert formulas begin on page 26 and definition of the GRS 80 ellipsoid is on page 13. But, if you're really serious about state plane and low distortion map projections, you need to read the whole thing, cover to cover. The other given references are also freely available on the internet.

You know, learning is a very individual thing. When I first started teaching, I would begin a topic with the theoretical stuff and end with the problems. My best students could learn no matter what I did, but I lost a significant number of the others before I ever got to the problems. Then one day, I began the class with a problem before teaching the math needed to solve it. The change was dramatic and after that I varied the presentation order from topic to topic. My students learned to learn both ways and I learned to teach both ways, so it was win-win.

This one is a hybrid. There's some math up front, a lot of results, some references, and some more math buried in the references. The idea was to present it in a way that would be informative on its own, but spur questions, comments and discussion to bring about the real learning. The solutions to the problems have introduced some more concepts and more math, again hoping for more discussion and learning from the discussion.

Here's my first writing on the topic: https://www.xyht.com/surveying/pennsylvania-traverse-low-distortion-projection/ There are errors; one is noted in the replies, but there's another one in the concept of the elevation factor. It has little effect on the result, but, now, it's a bit embarrassing. Perhaps you'll find it an interesting application.

You probably already have the answers to Problem 4, but I'm still working on them. Coming soon, I hope.

 

 

 
Posted : May 27, 2019 5:41 am
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Here are the solutions to problem 4.

This modified .prj puts the grid origin at KJ0524 and uses a different false Easting and false Northing to make coordinates more easily distinguishable from those on the CBL LDP.

PROJCS["Lambert_Conformal_Conic",
GEOGCS["GCS_GRS 1980(IUGG, 1980)",
DATUM["D_unknown",
SPHEROID["GRS80",6378137,298.257222101]],
PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],
UNIT["Degree",0.017453292519943295]],
PROJECTION["Lambert_Conformal_Conic"],
PARAMETER["latitude_of_origin",39.198545625],
PARAMETER["central_meridian",-103.695986566667],
PARAMETER["scale_factor",1.00026334],
PARAMETER["false_easting",200000],
PARAMETER["false_northing",75000],
UNIT["Meter",1],
PARAMETER["standard_parallel_1",39.198545625]]

At KJ0524, the elevation factor is 0.99973673. Its reciprocal, 1.00026334, is used as the scale factor at the grid origin. Note that NGS 2022 specifications limit this scale factor to 6 decimal places; the difference is negligible.

The scale factor function, which can be used to calculate the scale factor for any point, is:

f(x) =1.239459116120*(((1+0.081819191042832*sin(x))/(1-0.081819191042832*sin(x)))^0.081819191042832/((1+sin(x))/(1-sin(x))))^(0.63200963155528/2)*(1-0.081819191042832^2*sin(x)^2)^(1/2)/cos(x)

Calculated Coordinates for all of the points considered are given below on both coordinate systems. The new one is named Limon Southwest LDP. Standard coordinate transformation software should accurately translate, rotate, and scale coordinates from either system to the other. (As a final exercise, determine the coordinates for the true grid origin for the Limon Southwest projection.)

Limon CBL LDP (meters)
Point ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ Latitude ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ Longitude ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ Northing ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ Easting
CBL 0 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.268405177776 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ -103.664077586110 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 25,000.000 ?ÿ?ÿ 100,000.000
CBL 400 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 39.271949486108 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ -103.664916597220 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 25,393.591 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 99,927.580
CBL 1400 ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.280806452798 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.667013661110 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 26,377.150 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 99,746.603
Runway 16 ?ÿ 39.281131610000 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.667371970000 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 26,413.260 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 99,715.680
Runway 34 ?ÿ 39.268443690000 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.664374783000 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 25,004.277 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 99,974.346
True Origin ?ÿ 39.043274846287 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.664077586110 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 0.000 ?ÿ?ÿ 100,000.000
KJ0524 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 39.198545625000 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.695986566670 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 17,242.721 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 97,242.883
KJ0231 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.283290175000 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.778983419440 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 26,659.255 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 90,083.433
CBL 150* ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.269733630939 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.664392049992 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 25,147.523 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 99,972.856
*Coordinates were calculated

Limon Southwest LDP (meters)
Point ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ Latitude ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ Longitude ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ Northing ?ÿ ?ÿ Easting
CBL 0 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.268405177776 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.664077586110 ?ÿ ?ÿ 82,758.332 ?ÿ 202,754.414
CBL 400 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 39.271949486108 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.664916597220 ?ÿ?ÿ 83,151.903 ?ÿ 202,681.855
CBL 1400 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.280806452798 ?ÿ?ÿ -103.667013661110 ?ÿ ?ÿ 84,135.410 ?ÿ?ÿ 202,500.529
Runway 16 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.281131610000 ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ -103.667371970000 ?ÿ 84,171.509 ?ÿ ?ÿ 202,469.593
Runway 34 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.268443690000 ?ÿ -103.664374783000 ?ÿ 82,762.600 ?ÿ?ÿ 202,728.758
True Origin* ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 39.043274846287 ?ÿ ?ÿ -103.664077586110 ?ÿ?ÿ 57,758.107 ?ÿ ?ÿ 202,763.213
KJ0524 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 39.198545625000 ?ÿ ?ÿ -103.695986566670 ?ÿ?ÿ 75,000.000 ?ÿ 200,000.000
KJ0231 ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ 39.283290175000 ?ÿ -103.778983419440 ?ÿ ?ÿ 84,414.107 ?ÿ ?ÿ 192,837.147
CBL 150** ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ ?ÿ 39.269733630939 ?ÿ -103.664392049992 ?ÿ?ÿ 82,905.848 ?ÿ?ÿ 202,727.217
*True projection origin for Limon CBL LDP ** Coordinates were calculated

Grid distances on Limon Southwest are slightly different from those on the CBL LDP. For example, the length of the CBL calculated from Limon Southwest coordinates is 1,400.2862 meters, compared to 1,400.2686 meters from the CBL LDP coordinates. Compared to the measured distance of 1,400.2719 meters, the Limon Southwest difference is 10 ppm while that for the CBL LDP is -2ppm.

The situation is different for the distance from KJ0231 to KJ0524. The Limon Southwest distance is 11,829.280 meters compared to a state plane computed ground distance of 11,829.246 meters, about 3ppm different. Recall from Problem 3 that the CBL LDP difference was -8ppm.

Of course, this exercise is illustrative only. Far more work by people far more competent and qualified than I would be required to render either of these projections usable. The purpose here is to provide insight into the development process and to encourage experimentation with near-ground coordinate systems.

Dr. Charles Ghilani, who is indeed both competent and qualified, published a series of articles a few years ago in XYHT magazine that described in some detail the use of state plane coordinates and alternatives. Some of Dr. Ghilaniƒ??s thoughts on LDPs and more conventional methods can be found at the links below. In fact, the series is a valuable reference anyone interested in geodesy and surveying.

https://www.xyht.com/surveying/transformation-observations-2/
https://www.xyht.com/gnsslocation-tech/transformation-of-observations-part-4/

 
Posted : May 30, 2019 7:36 am