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Is this the solution to "Pin Cushions" ?

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(@sfreshwaters)
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Yes, this is a tongue in cheek commentary.

 
Posted : 21/02/2015 8:52 pm
(@holy-cow)
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So, the solution is to just pull it up and move it to where it was really supposed to be all along, eh? I've got some old rocks that were put in the wrong place by the Gubmit contractors back in 1865, so maybe I should dig them up and put them on the straight line and half distance where the notes say they were supposed to be.

Now, a comment on silly twits who come up with subdivisions. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY????????????

 
Posted : 21/02/2015 9:09 pm
(@kent-mcmillan)
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One ground upon which I would fail about that plat is that it isn't immediately obvious which markers are the original monuments defining a line and which are just some bits of ferrous junk.

What is a " 1/8" x 1" iron bar in Original Stake" for example?

 
Posted : 21/02/2015 9:16 pm
(@sfreshwaters)
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Kent - the iron rod was set in a found original wooden stake. Aubrey Heights was platted in 1910 and that was the way of monumentation back then. Surveyors from
the 1940s - 1970s would find original wooden stakes and typically set something more substantive in place of the rotting wood. During 2010 in another town about 30 miles south of Bend I found remains of an original 1910 subdivision wooden stake lot corner 1.2' below ground. So, it still can happen. A previous Surveyor had set his plastic capped rebar 0.86' away from that original wooden lot corner that he had failed to look for. And no, I did not pull his mon. and set it over the original!

 
Posted : 21/02/2015 9:32 pm
(@kent-mcmillan)
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> Kent - the iron rod was set in a found original wooden stake. Aubrey Heights was platted in 1910 and that was the way of monumentation back then. Surveyors from
> the 1940s - 1970s would find original wooden stakes and typically set something more substantive in place of the rotting wood.

Yes that was also common in Austin. As I understand the plat, the instances where there are multiple monuments do not indicate that any of them were set in an original wood stake. Is that how you interpret it? To me, from just a cursory review, it appears to be an actual retracement of the original survey that ignored later boogered surveys. What did I miss?

 
Posted : 21/02/2015 10:11 pm
(@sfreshwaters)
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Hey Kent, my point was that at the NE & NW corners of Lot 5 a 1/2" dia. rebar was
found out of position so the surveyor in 1978 showed how far out (N & E) they are
and who set them (whited out) and stated "Reset in correct location".
If we all did this there wouldn't be any more pincushions created. But, no one would
know for sure exactly where their bounds are.

 
Posted : 22/02/2015 9:06 am
(@mike-berry)
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Interesting survey and I've never seen "surveyor2", the guy in Scott's example, do that. However, after looking at the previous survey, "surveyor2" did the "previous surveyor" and the owners a big favor.

Previous survey was Dec. 1977 and Survey 2 above was Oct. 1978 so at least the moved monuments had only been in the ground for 10 months. And "pervious surveyor's" work was horrid. Prolonging a 105' lot line in another block 180' east and then slapping the lots in by record without searching for the corners that surveyor2 found. Yikes!

Previous survey of Lot 4 Block 5:

Also, it would help if "surveyor2" and "previous surveyor" would spell the name of the subdivision correctly. Jeez.

 
Posted : 22/02/2015 10:57 am
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I did a boundary relocation on a Mineral survey. One of the corners originally was a 4"wooden post. Two surveyors {both long since retired} had surveyed both sides of the MS and both had set "iron Pins" according their respective surveys. Neither filed Public Land Corner Recordation forms, and MT law requires 24"x 5/8"re-bar and 2" dia. metal caps. one had set a 1/2" re-bar and one had set a 3/8" re-bar about 1.4' apart, both with yellow plastic caps. I carefully excavated the area and lo and behold 4" under the surface, I found a 4"square rotted wooden post. It fell halfway between the two caps. On my survey, I called both caps reference monuments to the original, in the middle of which I set a 24"x 5/8" re-bar and properly stamped 2" Aluminum Cap. So yes I have been known to pin cushion when I find original evidence.

 
Posted : 23/02/2015 2:37 pm
(@thebionicman)
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I retraced a plat from the 50's recently where the exterior boundary was established in 1901. I found two lot corners from the 50's and 1 original from 1901. I also found a new pin about 1 foot south of the only missing corner. I called the other surveyor who informed me 'that old corner isn't right. It doesn't fit my 1/16th corners'.
I pin cushioned that one...

 
Posted : 23/02/2015 5:07 pm