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Loyal, post: 445579, member: 228 wrote: Obsoletely!

My point [above] being that GLO/BLM "Field Notes" were NOT written in the FIELD (far from it).

PLSS Surveyors know that (or should anyway).

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See my addendum to my post above...

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:09 am
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Loyal, post: 445579, member: 228 wrote: Obsoletely!

My point [above] being that GLO/BLM "Field Notes" were NOT written in the FIELD (far from it).

PLSS Surveyors know that (or should anyway).

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I didn't know the PLSS manual also included how when and where to write the field notes. Does it also say what kind of pen to use and what color ink?

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:09 am
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There are a surveyor's general field notes and then there are THE GOVERNMENT FIELD NOTES. Huge difference. Anyone attempting to use the manual must know the difference.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:11 am
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Tom Adams, post: 445574, member: 7285 wrote: Funny thing too, is that Texas statutes have a requirement for the surveyor to create "Field Notes" of his survey.

The real funny thing is; Field Notes in PLSSia and Field Notes in Texas are two completely different things:

  • Field Notes in PLSSia are, well, notes from the fieldwork done for property surveyed.
  • Field Notes in Texas are Legal Descriptions of the property surveyed.

It took me a long time to figure this out; surveying IS really tougher in Texas!

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Posted : 07/09/2017 11:17 am
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Hack, post: 445530, member: 708 wrote: Usually I'll use 4 or 5 pages including my deed and make an alphabet of the scrivener's handwriting.

Excellent advice Hack. I do the same.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:23 am
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Scott Ellis, post: 445585, member: 7154 wrote: I didn't know the PLSS manual also included how when and where to write the field notes. Does it also say what kind of pen to use and what color ink?

Yup! Clueless... as I suspected.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:17 pm
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Loyal, post: 445622, member: 228 wrote: Yup! Clueless... as I suspected.

Yes Loyal, I am not a PLSS Surveyor. I do not work in the cookie cutter system where I can asked a Surveyor a question from 5 States away and get the answer I need.

In Texas, Field Notes use to be written in the field, and some still are written in the field.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:23 pm
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Hack, post: 445517, member: 708 wrote: Thought it be interesting for PLSS guys and even someone from the great State of Texas. This is a 1752 deed I am using for a current project. Notice the payment is in pounds and shillings. It is of the "Sawyer Lot" in the "Common pasture" which is a description that has carried through to today.

Starts at bottom of first page.

Sometimes it is easier to read if you tip the page away from you and read on the angle of the words.

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Posted : 07/09/2017 12:53 pm
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That's a very readable deed. The scrivener's handwriting is excellent.

Don't you wish they were all that easy.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:12 pm
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Scott Ellis, post: 445624, member: 7154 wrote:
In Texas, Field Notes use to be written in the field, and some still are written in the field.

In Texas, when some notes are now written in the office, you still call them field notes? I would think they'd be called office notes. Just trying to understand the complexities of your system.

In your avatar picture, that must be you taking a breather from writing field notes at your desk?

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 4:42 pm
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roger_LS, post: 445680, member: 11550 wrote: In Texas, when some notes are now written in the office, you still call them field notes? I would think they'd be called office notes. Just trying to understand the complexities of your system.

In your avatar picture, that must be you taking a breather from writing field notes at your desk?

Roger,

Yes Field Notes written in the office are still called Field Notes. Back when you could not go out to the field perform a survey and be back in the office the same day the Survey Crew would have to camp out. This would have been large tracts of land was being Surveyed and a horse was the transportation. So the Surveyor would check his traverse and make his notes every night. Thus we have Field Notes. Today they are mostly called the Legal Description, or the Metes and Bounds however it is not uncommon for them to be still called Field Notes. I know one older Surveyor if you came back to the office with field notes he would make you go back out on your dime and write the notes it the field.

Office notes would be the missed phone message.

Yes I probably was taking a quick break when the photo was taken.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 5:35 pm
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Jon Collins, post: 445550, member: 11135 wrote: That handwriting is much easier to read than the GLO notes of the late 1800s in my PLSS world. I wonder why?

We had skools here in New England :p

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 5:54 pm
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Hack, post: 445517, member: 708 wrote: Thought it be interesting for PLSS guys and even someone from the great State of Texas. This is a 1752 deed I am using for a current project. Notice the payment is in pounds and shillings. It is of the "Sawyer Lot" in the "Common pasture" which is a description that has carried through to today.

Starts at bottom of first page.

I like my Avatar more gooder.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 5:56 pm
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Careful. I'll sic my in-house English teacher on yer sorry tail.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 6:24 pm
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That was done by a "low writer".

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 6:50 pm
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