Norman Oklahoma, post: 348436, member: 9981 wrote: That's a good point. The call for "Weaver Street" supersedes the call for the monuments. If Weaver Street is controlled by some other means then the monuments yield.
So I went back today and didn't find anything else useful. It seems that the angle points in their deed along weaver st line up with a rock ledge along the road. The rock ledge is so high and irregular though I wouldn't know where to locate it to see how it lines up with the deed lines but someone definitely at one point used that as the basis of their deeded lines.
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Once you have confidence that some other smart alec isn't going to go just a little farther and find something key, then you just have to do whatever you have to do , set your pins, and say "Prove me wrong if you can". Chances are, if have done your work well, the next guy will find your stuff, do a happy dance, and not question it. Not out loud anyway.
Norman Oklahoma, post: 348554, member: 9981 wrote: Once you have confidence that some other smart alec isn't going to go just a little farther and find something key, then you just have to do whatever you have to do , set your pins, and say "Prove me wrong if you can". Chances are, if have done your work well, the next guy will find your stuff, do a happy dance, and not question it. Not out loud anyway.
I'm very happy with what I have so far. All I care is that in the future if someone else surveys it, they will find the three monuments and they will all work perfectly with these measurements, the property closes out almost exactly how the deed had it and works in harmony with the neighbor who took bought a piece from this lady.
The distance from the deed angle point to the monument found is within 0.01' the angle is just slightly off.
I guess when the title company questions why I changed the distance and the slight bearing of the other line, I will just tell them that it is as measured. Never done that before.
I really did some rock climbing today. I wanted to make sure there was no cross or something on the side of the ledge.
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Norman Oklahoma, post: 348262, member: 9981 wrote: "...I am assuming that he accepts the rebar and caps as the corners and is showing the relationship to calculated plat positions, based on the 2 brassy's, 800 feet away. But he is totally leaving that up to me...."
I read that as calling the many found monuments as being off the corners.
[USER=9981]@Norman Oklahoma[/USER] That's exactly my point; you think that he is saying the plat is where the lines are and I take it as the found corners represent the ends of the lines, they're off just a little bit.
I believe that most of the surveyors around here practice this method. Some don't; so it can be a crap shoot. It would be nice if there was some sort of narrative.
The client isn't going to look at the drawing and know what's going on; he's going to walk out to the corner of his property; see what he assumes is "the" survey marker and assume that this is what he needs to use to base the location of what ever improvements he wants to add to his property.
Norman Oklahoma, post: 348262, member: 9981 wrote: FWIW, describing a found monument simply as a "brassie" probably wouldn't pass muster in Austin, and it certainly won't in PDX. It's not just me saying this. The county surveyor would insist on noting the color of the caps, for example, and whether they are plastic or aluminum. They would need a lot more detail about these "brassies". Are they in concrete or on a rod? In a mon box or at surface? Etc, Etc.
Are you saying there is specific language in the Oregon code that specifically tells you how to describe every monument in your survey? You probably should post it for [USER=3]@Kent McMillan[/USER] and he can get the boys in Texas to change things...LOL B-)
"....Are you saying there is specific language in the Oregon code that specifically tells you how to describe every monument in your survey?..."
Well, as a matter of fact, Content of Records of Survey are governed by ORS 209.250, and ORS 209.250 (3)(f) is as follows:
"Monuments set and their relation to older monuments found. A detailed description of monuments found and set must be included and monuments set must be separately indicated from those found."
and ORS 209.250 (4) gives the county surveyor the power to decide whether a submitted record of survey is in compliance with the various provisions of Chapter 209. Which effectively gives the county surveyor the power to decide how I describe monuments.