I am working in Carlson Survey 2004 and have inserted tif images into a drawing which I have been doing for years. I would like to add shape files, which I have neve done before.
Can I do it in Carlson Survey?
Or do I need something else, free being preferable?
Paul in PA
A quick look at the online pdf manual for Carlson Survey 2004 yielded no indication that it works with shape files.
I'm in the office working today, so if you want to e-mail them to me, I can convert to dxf and ship them back to you.
To directly import a shapefile you would need Carlson GIS.
Thanks Jon
I have downloaded imagery and contour files from PAMAP. Each tile covers a 10,000 x 10,000 foot area. The one I want to send is 24Mb as a .shp or 9Mb as a zip file with other data. Can your email handle it. If you want to download it it is tile 54002650 PAS at
http://www.pamap.dcnr.state.pa.us/pamap/
That is not for the project I am planning but for an area I am doing some free work for a local historical group. I have a site there which I have GPSed control and have surveyed and topoed a small portion of so I have some data to tie in with it.
What program would you use and what other program might you recommend?
I particulary want to learn any steps and/or shortcuts.
Paul in PA
Brett, A Carlson Upgrade Is Just Not In My Future
Possibly a low cost shp to dxf converter for a few bucks, but that is it.
Paul in PA
Thanks Jon
Paul,
I just downloaded the contours file.
I opened it in Global Mapper and exported as a dxf.
The file is pretty large, so I will host it to a file server and send you a link to download it.
What you will end up with is line work of the contours that should be on the correct PA coordinate system as the original shape file was.
The file is uploading to the server right now. If you are e-mailable from this site, I'll send you an e-mail shortly with link. Just got your e-mail so I will just respond with the link shortly.
Jon
> To directly import a shapefile you would need Carlson GIS.
I had to get with the Carlson Tech Support staff for this but it looks like Carlson Survey 2004 does (or did) have the needed Carlson GIS functionality to import ESRI SHP files:
For what it's worth, the Carlson programming team have made improvements in the Carlson 2012 GIS module that would not be available in the 2004 product.
Looks like I should have searched the term shp instead of shape.:-$
That is probably much easier than converting and importing a dxf!!!
My Carlson Wants An MDB File Not A SHP File
Duh, the GIS menu sits there but I have not a clue.
For now I will download the DXF file.
Paul in PA
My Carlson Wants An MDB File Not A SHP File
I remember writing a "GIS Primer" a few years back and have posted it to the Carlson Knowledgebase.
2006 has a GIS module. Get Global Mapper, then you can reproject them and export as dxf and then insert into 2004 if you don't like the GIS module on 2004. It's not real difficult, but global mapper makes it very easy.
Update, I Have Downloaded Jon's DXF File
The topo in that file is amazing. Two foot contours for 4 square miles. I trimmed it to a 2000' z 3000' area and it is where it should be per the image file. Thsi is amazing and I wish I would have known about this sooner as it could have saved a ton of time on a project I am finishing up and allowed me to take on a project I turned down. This one is just for fun but I may have to get some software and do this for money.
Now I have to figure out why my GPS coordinates are about 5 miles East of the image location. OOPS, figure that out the drawing was not on my GPS coordinates but on SPC from a State Park Survey. I will hold my OPUS positions and bring over my field points. Elevations agree well, I compared the image contour near a building corner with my topo line near the same building corner. Good enough for governement work.
Paul in PA
I DID IT! I DID IT! I Brought In A Shape File Myself.
I went to CarlsonSW.com and found a movie of a 1 hour webinar on GIS shape files. WOW! it is easy. As the movie progressed I actually opened a new drawing with my orthoimage in it with nothing else. I created the required mdb files and imported the contour shape file. VOILA! contours that overlaid my orthoimage perfectly. Then I used the standard contour pulldown to label the contour elevations. That makes it easier to get my 10 and 50 foot contours on separate layers. I stopped there because I had already done the contour line changes in the dwg I created using the dfx from a shp file that Jon Payne sent me.
Thank's Jon Payne. Without your assistance in getting me started I never would have thought it so easy.
Paul in PA
Darn It Nate, And I Was Oh So Happy
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Paul in PA
Darn It Nate, And I Was Oh So Happy
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