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How to read a plat map...and some basic questions!

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> Does O.P.R.G.C. stand for Official Plat Record G____ County?

Judging by the Document No. cited on the map, i.e. Doc. No. 20080844 (less than 9,999 instruments expected in 2008), that is probably in some rural county without much going on in the way of land transactions. I'd guess that means little or no oil and gas activity and no cities of any consequence.


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:04 pm
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Wow, lots of replies!

The county is Gillespie in Texas. My property backs up to a river.

btw, I did find this weird thing next to a wooden pike with purple colored tape. I don't know if this just happened to be there or if it is indeed a marker:

Past that is a small cliff that drops into a river. I think I saw a orange tape on some of the branches down here...


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:14 pm
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I found an email address for the surveyor. I suppose I can just email him this map and ask him directly.


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:15 pm
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You got us curious now! Post the entire plat/map image.


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:23 pm
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> My question is:
>
> Is there a way to easily locate the stakes via a consumer hand-held GPS? How do I get that precise of a compass heading as shown on the map?
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> What will the legal description of my property show that is different than my current plat map?
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> Does my plat map ONLY help me find the stakes in the ground or can I get any other info from it?
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> Is there a common color code for surveyor's tape? I have some pink and some orange/yellow tape on tree branches throughout the boundary.
>
> Thanks!

Not to beat a dead horse here, but with that extra bit of info I'll dive in.

I'm surprised that my fellow survey brethren didn't recognize that the 270° and such is in AZIMUTHS. That being said, it is very odd that some of it is in azimuths and some in bearing style (N ##°##'##" E). That is very odd. That iron/metal thingy is nothing that I've ever seen set/found/used on any survey in my area (VA). The map symbols make a little more sense to me now I'm going to guess that the open circles at the top are unmonumented deflections in the creek you showed. The circles with lines going through it could be irons in the creek... I've set them. The circle on line near the top right could be an iron on line as it enters the creek area. The solid circles at the road or bottom could indicate that the surveyor who prepared the subdivision intended to set irons at those positions. That the surveyor noted a 3-second deflection in 300'± is kinda weak... others will know what I am talking about. Unless the adjoining plat noted that difference... it's kinda piss-poor procedure. The flagging situation probably is such that one color marks the boundary and the corners (typically orange around here) and another color marks the random traverse stations (usually a nail in the ground). I tell my clients that orange marks the boundary and red/red & white marks the traverse stations. I ask not to be careful with both, as they both are important, but the orange is more important.

Like most everybody else said also, you should call the surveyor that prepared the plat or someone else familiar with their work.

I gotta be honest though... that's a really pathetic plat from my viewpoint. Just plain ugly.

Carl


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:44 pm

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Hey!!! it was noted.... "Strange map. Bearings and azimuths mixed together."

Also, my money is that this is prepared from a legal description and not a true boundary survey.. probably created by an attorney, or by someone bored on a Sunday and wanting to yank some "Chain!"


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:46 pm
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> Hey!!! it was noted.... "Strange map. Bearings and azimuths mixed together."
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> Also, my money is that this is prepared from a legal description and not a true boundary survey.. probably created by an attorney.

Sorry bro... I musta missed it... a little hazy still 😉
Atty or a architect helper (or something of the like) with access to a CAD program. Not survey grade though... At least not in my book.


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:51 pm
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That "weird thing next to a wooden pike with purple colored tape" is a connector that fits on the end of a hose. Was probably dropped there after a hose was used to discharge something into the stream or suck some water from the stream and the hose broke. I wouldn't consider it to be "surveyor-ish". These connectors are typical for small pumps and you might see some on a fuel tanker when it refills the underground tanks at a local station.

We aren't being disingenuous when we advise asking a local surveyor or the original surveyor to explain it to you. While perhaps not life threatening, it is similar to asking for medical advice on-line showing only one piece of the clinical data. One needs to see the "whole" to give a legitimate answer. On a side not that is what "survey" means - to "over see" or "to see the whole".

Best wishes,
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Posted : April 17, 2011 12:53 pm
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Aretha Franklin............

is posting on beerleg?
Sweet!


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:55 pm
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>... or by someone bored on a Sunday and wanting to yank some "Chain!"

That's the horse my money is on Andy


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:55 pm

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must be all the cleaning fluids!


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:55 pm
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The hunk of metal appears to be a quick disconnect fitting for a hose. I've seen these on fuel tankers, septic pump trucks, etc. - I doubt it has anything to do with your boundary lines.


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 12:56 pm
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> must be all the cleaning fluids!

yeah... THAT'S it. I had a cute little helper come over. I didn't really touch the cleaning stuff...


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 1:03 pm
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not if you didn't take some pics you didn't!!


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 1:05 pm
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> not if you didn't take some pics you didn't!!

I took some pics... old school 35mm with Dad's Minolta SR-1 rig. It might be a few years before they are printed. Look on my FB for Kelsi. That's her.


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 1:08 pm

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Andy

I figured that but at least it got some discussion going other than the decline and fall of the confederate empire.


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 1:18 pm
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Hahahaha!

Funny......

Now which comedian texas surveyor is the clown????

Fun at the circus on a sunday


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 4:52 pm
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BL

Huh? I mean pardon?


 
Posted : April 17, 2011 6:44 pm
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I hate this kind of BS

Why do we do this to ourselves?? Does someone really get a kick out of wasting fellow surveyor's time? We try to be nice and helpful, but get burned, then some REAL person may wander in here with a REAL question, and is likely to get flamed to high heaven. Then we all get a black eye... again. Crap like this makes me stay away.


 
Posted : April 18, 2011 6:26 am
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I hate this kind of BS

> Why do we do this to ourselves?? Does someone really get a kick out of wasting fellow surveyor's time? We try to be nice and helpful, but get burned, then some REAL person may wander in here with a REAL question, and is likely to get flamed to high heaven. Then we all get a black eye... again. Crap like this makes me stay away.

Agreed.

If one was to have clicked on the image in the original post to get the information where the images was actually located (.../i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr2/dosstx...), then google that, it would have taken about 15 seconds to find that the question was also posted on a recreational GPS message board and that a number of other message board posts about subjects ranging from Microsoft Word templates to the safety of fly a small aircraft along the Rio Grande linked to images in the same Photobucket directory. It was a real question from a real person.


 
Posted : April 18, 2011 6:37 am

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