On the bright side, it appears from the above thread that surveyors in Texas will soon be under the supervision of engineers. Engineers know full well the value of magic surveys and will help water down your licensure requirements to enhance the quick service needed and performed by the survey magicians. This should help put you all on the same page and finally eliminate the need to disrupt the landscape architects nice lawn work. Put the shovel on your wall, right next to the buggy whip.
> On the bright side, it appears from the above thread that surveyors in Texas will soon be under the supervision of engineers.
Yes, Texas government under the present elected officials is a disaster. That whole hoo-haw began over a grossly erroneous benchmark in a subsiding area that some idiot surveyors used to establish finished floor elevations. That was an activity that isn't land surveying under the present Texas statutes, but the idiot politicians want to fault the licensing board for not having prevented it from happening.
Sure hope you are kidding here Steve....realize that the intent of a surveyor 100 years ago holds high precident, we all know that we have more accurate measuring equipment today, however, one must keep in mind that nearly every "old pipe" may have consequence to adjoining properties...its not as if one guy had an edm and everyone else was walking around with chains and links...surveyors of today DO most definitly inherit the problems of the last guy...im not sure i would want to follow your work...haha.
Kent-
Thank you for your bon mots about "Modern Methodologies in Retracement Surveys".
I too, will be archiving the phrase as has Squire Ince.
Churchill would be proud.
Now as to your use of "High-tech" equipment.................
This is the type of excavation equipment we have used in North Aboyne and in other parts of Ontario when the terra firma was accommodating:
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Herewith is another link that presents a festoon of opportunities for your optional excavation toil.
There is even a model to use that has a human standing beside when you get too close to a "political" boundary.
To my disappointment, there is not included in the later link a special shovel used in Canada called the 'snow' shovel which we have the joy to use as we have the fortune of four seasons, one blessing us as "Winter" !
As a point of interest, do you have a set of "Summer" shoes as we have "Raquettes a Neige" for the Winter months ?
Remaining YOS,
TNAI
Sunry,
I was just kidding.
-Steve
eduuuucatin surveyors is a problem these days
Yas can eeeven hav a degree or not. The sad reality is dAT rigerass menterin of suveyors seams tave gon out the door!
modn metal detectas seem to b the go. no sound, no mark mentalitity.
Seams basic commen cents approach of assessinh the surface is a fergettin art.
I think time to produce shoveil wiff buttins so butn pushers will know OK use shuvel as funcky tool to DIG down to natural surface.
Only yesterday I returned to a site where I first found an old mark in 1985. Was said to be gone in 1987 on a subsequent surveyor's plan, I found it in 1989 and again yesterday, still a full ONE INCH BELOW THE SURFACE !!!
RADU
eduuuucatin surveyors is a problem these days
Oh the pain of digging. Reset a section corner, A GLO corner had been there for years, one of the farm hands told me that they occasionally ripped down to 36". That is deeper than I have ever seen it, where we dry land farm, seldom are the shanks lower than 8". I set the replacement brass cap at 40", that put the base at about 66". Dug a hole to stand in so I could get the post hole diggers to get deep enough. Been recovered twice since then based on the complaints about the depth. Required to set or reference 4 reference marks by state law so the recovery is easy today. But your 1" seems to be overkill, having been the first to recover that mark, have you thought of raising it to the surface?
jud
I choose A just because it sounds cool! Isn't it amazing how useful a shovel is when it looking for property corners?
Cy
Mr. McMillan:
We need to import you north to look for some of our cornerstones!
> But to be fair, you make it seem as if the first 12" long #4 rebar you found was pretty close, also. It sounds like you had to remove it and then dig down from that spot to get better sound on the original. How far off was this guy?
The first one pulled was about 0.7 ft. off. For urban land uses, that's a mile.
