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(@stephen93)
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Hello all,

This is my first post and i am new to surveying, i am just completing my second year of a 3 year hydrography degree and i am lucky enough to have got a summer placement in the middle east. I am really looking forward to what will be a challenging summer but i was wondering if someone could clear a few things up for me? Firstly what is the datum most used for surveying in Saudi Arabia? and secondly what is there national grid? I believe it is operated by Ministry of Municipal and Rural Affairs, General Commission for Survey.

Thanks in advance!

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 12:36 pm
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Welcome friend.

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 12:54 pm
(@a-harris)
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Howdy Stephen.........

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 2:51 pm
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I'm no help. To me the middle east is somewhere near the Tennessee/North Carolina border.

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 3:16 pm
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Was it Professor Cliff Mugnier (sorry on spelling) who wrote all the articles on National Grids?
I may be misremembering.

Anywho, welcome aboard matey!

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 3:42 pm
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Welcome!

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 3:51 pm
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http://www.asprs.org/a/resources/grids/08-2008-saudi.pdf

Bingo! Not demented yet!

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 3:57 pm
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P.S. What gauge is that in the avatar?

 
Posted : May 26, 2016 4:37 pm
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its a 12g Beretta Silver pigeon Scott and thanks a lot guys for the advice!

 
Posted : May 27, 2016 7:16 am
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Have you read any of the articles online about working in the middle east and some of the pitfalls? I had a buddy who worked overseas, his employer took his passport and used it as leverage to underpay him and break several employment promises, as well as preventing him from leaving. If you have no experience with being a foreigner in a foreign land, I'd highly recommend some thorough research. If you're in the know already, then have a great experience.

Perhaps one of the other forum members who has experience in this area can weigh in as my comments are second-hand or what I have seen in the media.

 
Posted : May 27, 2016 7:50 am
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Andy... Thanks for the advice, i have worked in some bad places and rule No 1 is never give over your passport! that is your life line out of trouble!

 
Posted : May 27, 2016 10:44 am
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I've only seen the GCS use ITRF in UTM.

http://www.gloss-sealevel.org/publications/documents/saudiarabia_gexii2011.pdf

I found these 2. Funny, one is in Gizan, and the other is in Tabuk.

Point number 160.

Point number 161.

 
Posted : May 30, 2016 9:34 am
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But maybe they transform it in Arcinfo:

Oblique Mercator, Hotine Rectified Skew Orthomorphic projection, for Saudi Arabia.

http://www.asprs.org/a/resources/grids/08-2008-saudi.pdf

 
Posted : May 30, 2016 9:50 am
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Looks like you're ready to go fight some terrorists! If you're new to the profession, just so you know, most of the time when we talk about using a "gun" it's not actually a real gun:)

Best of luck overseas!

 
Posted : May 30, 2016 10:00 am
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roger_LS, post: 374640, member: 11550 wrote: Looks like you're ready to go fight some terrorists! If you're new to the profession, just so you know, most of the time when we talk about using a "gun" it's not actually a real gun:)

Best of luck overseas!

Seriously? I just applied for a full carry bc I thought we needed to have a gun [emoji15]

 
Posted : May 30, 2016 11:17 am
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Rich., post: 374651, member: 10450 wrote: Seriously? I just applied for a full carry bc I thought we needed to have a gun [emoji15]

I thought it was a pretty good tip! My dad started surveying in Alaska where they had to carry guns in the field everyday for the bears...I think it hooked him...

 
Posted : May 30, 2016 12:53 pm
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roger_LS, post: 374660, member: 11550 wrote: I thought it was a pretty good tip! My dad started surveying in Alaska where they had to carry guns in the field everyday for the bears...I think it hooked him...

Believe me. I don't even take jobs in certain areas.... I thought about needing to get a carry license if I was to go into the areas solo with a 40k machine slinged over my shoulder

 
Posted : May 30, 2016 1:11 pm
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I worked in KSA for over 9 months, just recently, on a hydro survey along the west coast. GCS project. Never saw anything alarming. Except the way they drive. That was nerve wracking.

 
Posted : May 30, 2016 5:41 pm