Boundary Dispute...not a single deed call going back to the origination of the parcels around 1905, no deed calls on the old deeds or adjoiners either. At least 3 sets of conflicting pipes/pins in the field that could be held varying from 2 feet apart to 5 feet apart. All have been flagged previously. None work with any of the fences in the 'hood. At least all the deeds close reasonably well. ugh...
Tom
I like projects like this !!!
But, then again, I enjoy 1000 piece jigsaw puzzles, too...
Doubt It Can Be Done In A Day...Or Two
This is usually a 3 say in the field.
Gather all the field data you can find, bring it back to the office.
Fit it every which way but loose.
Return to the field with specific search areas to prove or disprove your configurations.
Plot it out and sit with the concerned parties.
Monument what is best for all.
I would say you need to consider the outbound parcels from those three lots.
This is what makes surveying fun but not profitable.
Paul in PA
Doubt It Can Be Done In A Day...Or Two
I find these profitable. Usually the attorney understands the need for a reliable survey, research, and report. And that this costs $'s.... Include prep time for consultations, depositions, and court and it's a money maker, if you're good!
I forget the right nomenclatures for the client that needs the work but isn't paying the freight.... but it's the best kind of client! The attorney representing the party!!! Or invoice amount usually gets lost in the attorney's fees...
Doubt It Can Be Done In A Day...Or Two
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Why isn't this profitable? Why do the job unless you are properly compensated?
Doubt It Can Be Done In A Day...Or Two
Yep...while it's going to be a long day, this is why I became a surveyor.
We've already made a couple of field visits and found more stuff.
There are 5 lots in the area that were carved out around 1905 from a much larger lot that still exists (church owned). That deed has little useful info besides road and old adjoiner names (I have those deeds too). No specific calls, no distances, and no bearings.
The parties are not interested in sitting down together with me and/or the other surveyor. I just spoke with him and he is in the same boat. I think we're going to prepare a survey showing some different possibilities of the lines and let their attorneys hash it out then file a lot line agreement.
Tom
Doubt It Can Be Done In A Day...Or Two
When doing this type of work most prudent surveyors go well beyond the contract limits as a CYA option.
Consider it an investment in your future peace of mind.
Paul in PA
Doubt It Can Be Done In A Day...Or Two>PAUL
"...go beyond the contract limits..."
I'm not sure that I follow you. Isn't our job to prepare a "defensible" survey? How does doing a competent job go beyond the contract limits? Does it cost more to do a complete job?
Knowing that you are entering "dispute" work means you adjust your contract to include foreseeable circumstances, such as meetings, reports, depositions, court etc...
Nothing should be "beyond the contract."
Why Wait To Defend It?
The point is to get ahead of a defensive position.
Paul in PA
Why Wait To Defend It?
I look at this type of work differently. I'm not at all worried about contract liability or negligence as I would be working construction. On the contrary, this type of work is consultant or expert stuff. I don't even think about the fees in terms of "profit" because I can't really calculate a profit based on years of education and experience. I know there are those who give this type of work away, and I know they are worth every penny. But my fees are higher than the attorneys (just as all expert fees are). Good attorneys know how important it is to get the right expert at whatever it costs. Good clients are the same way.
Lots of good surveyors don't charge enough for what they do to attract good employees, good clients, and hence help build a solid profession. That is a problem.
Why Wait To Defend It?
I think that's what I was saying Paul, prepare a defensible survey. (Before the complaints start)
