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MightyMoe
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I usually catch on to these pretty quick, for some reason this one had me baffled for longer than it should have.

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Posted : May 31, 2016 7:44 am
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I put this description into autocad,,,,,,didn't close, not even close.

Took way longer than it should have to catch the problem, the tie course of S89-57-29E is followed by the first course along the legal of S09-57-29E, sure enough if it's changed to S89-57-29E it works. This it very typical of 1970's deeds in the area, no bounds, or very little, this one actually calls out quite a bit for that time.:-(


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 9:28 am
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How well should it close? Unless I mistyped something I get 1.502' at a bearing of S72 17' 18"E.


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 12:33 pm
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Lee D, post: 374784, member: 7971 wrote: How well should it close? Unless I mistyped something I get 1.502' at a bearing of S72 17' 18"E.

Not bad for maybe a chain and transit. That could be a good sign that it reflects actual field measurements and not just pencil whipped...

In other words...You have to look for the good things in a bad situation.

"With all this horse crap around there's bound to be a free pony somewhere!" 😉


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 1:03 pm
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MightyMoe, post: 374750, member: 700 wrote: I usually catch on to these pretty quick, for some reason this one had me baffled for longer than it should have.

My eye didn't even see that was a 0 and not a 9 until you pointed it out. I just blew right through it...S89 etc.


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 1:32 pm

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paden cash, post: 374793, member: 20 wrote: Not bad for maybe a chain and transit. That could be a good sign that it reflects actual field measurements and not just pencil whipped...

One in a little over ten thousand... I'd take that with any instrument made with that many legs and short sights.


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 2:41 pm
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Lee D, post: 374784, member: 7971 wrote: How well should it close? Unless I mistyped something I get 1.502' at a bearing of S72 17' 18"E.

That's about what I get, 1.40', but then I make another assumption for the call along the section line.


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 2:42 pm
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The other call that needs "fixing" is the one after the N0-44-29E call along the section line to the 1/4; its followed by a N0-44 call, I make the second call to also be N0-44-29E, which changes the final tie in point, I would expect the figure to close better than 1.4 feet so there is probably something else there, figure it will turn up in the field..........

But it's not the only issue with the deed, it happens to slide 20 feet into some federal ground and 40 feet across a senior line, so it needs some extra attention.


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 2:53 pm
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Yeah I saw that... I just went with the 0 44' 00". That 29" would move you about 0.11' to the east, more or less.


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 3:13 pm
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It is common for a compass survey to not close by a considerable margin and the distances to hold firm in consideration.

When the bearings are down to the second and distances to the hundredth, near perfect closure is expected.

IMO, calls being bunched together in a paragraph beget the chance for error, each call certainly deserves its own line to occupy on paper.

😉


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 3:32 pm

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A Harris, post: 374853, member: 81 wrote: It is common for a compass survey to not close by a considerable margin and the distances to hold firm in consideration.

When the bearings are down to the second and distances to the hundredth, near perfect closure is expected.

IMO, calls being bunched together in a paragraph beget the chance for error, each call certainly deserves its own line to occupy on paper.

😉

Oh god that's a peeve of mine. Descriptions in a bunch paragraph. No spacing. Just one call after the other and no breaks. Ugh.

My father writes them like that. I space mine with a new line for each call. A spacer line between as well


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 3:40 pm
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Typo's notwithstanding, the overall description is a perfect example of ignorance in writing descriptions.


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 3:43 pm
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A Harris, post: 374853, member: 81 wrote: It is common for a compass survey to not close by a considerable margin and the distances to hold firm in consideration.

When the bearings are down to the second and distances to the hundredth, near perfect closure is expected.

IMO, calls being bunched together in a paragraph beget the chance for error, each call certainly deserves its own line to occupy on paper.

😉

this would have been an instrument survey, also they were using a distance meter for these surveys


 
Posted : May 31, 2016 3:52 pm