Funny. What if I told you that I know one who got his license with 1 yr responsible charge, max, and 3 yrs as a CAD tech, not in charge of anyone?
> Are you saying that you know guys who are not licensed because they do not have a degree that are wholly competent to do the job of a licensed surveyor? What would you say about a guy with a degree who has never stepped outside of the office in 4 yrs but only did CAD being allowed to sit for his license in Florida? Is this the kind of person you deem a professional?
Like I said, I support the degree requirement. That's all I really need to say, and I'm not going to let bait me into your "us against them" mentality. If someone wants to be a licensed surveyor in Florida, there is a path to follow. It's same way in other professions, here. Working for an engineer, accountant, doctor, lawyer, architect, etc. for 8 years doesn't earn you anything in their world. That's just the way it is in the PROFESSIONAL world.
> Funny. What if I told you that I know one who got his license with 1 yr responsible charge, max, and 3 yrs as a CAD tech, not in charge of anyone?
I'd ask to see his application file...
And what was the result of the complaint you filed for lying on his app., MrProfessional?
You mean like professionals who refuse to pay their employees for ride time to jobs in a different part of the state? Or professionals who ignore the licensing law because their employee has a degree?
Sounds like a bad boss ... and something you should report to the BOR ... what does that have to do with anything?
But I am not legally required to turn him in to your board for violating your rules. I have actually asked a board member if I needed to and he told me since your state does not recognize me as a professional that I am not legally required to notify you if I know of someone violating your rules as they will most likely ignore the complaint.
FWIW, I've heard that the BOR takes complaints from general members of the public much more seriously than professional on professional complaints. Sounds like you got bad advise.
If you knew who told me that, or if you knew who one of the recommendations was, you would not say that. Taking it to the board would have resulted in NOTHING.
Then I guess doing NOTHING was the professional thing to do, right? I'd hate to question your professionalism in the same way you question mine ...
> You mean like professionals who refuse to pay their employees for ride time to jobs in a different part of the state? Or professionals who ignore the licensing law because their employee has a degree?
The Department of Labor is a good place to start for any hourly employee in the situation described above. Some employers really need to learn some basic employment law facts. There were no employment law questions on the NCEES exam when I took it, but it wouldn't hurt if someone offered CEU's in employment law, apparently.
Now, back to the degree requirement: I'm all for it.
> > The fact that our Boards largely test for technical ability and very often license technicians, allowing them to call themselves Professional Land Surveyors, has had the unfortunate effect of diluting the professional ranks of surveying. We license technicians, hoping they will grow into being professionals, but it happens too often that they choose to remain technicians throughout their careers while insisting they are professionals. For many skilled technicians, the license has only represented the key to better pay, and little more.
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> And attitudes like this one is what makes us see that you so called "professionals" need to learn what being a professional is. Because you just come off as a jack @ss!!!!!
Apparently I hit pretty close to home there for you Georgia. Sorry, nothing personal, but it is what it is.