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Ever wonder why fixed height prism poles are 2m and not 6.5' or some other even number ? I am building a new box for my new truck . ( replaced my old 10 year old ranger ) and was hoping to be able to keep the pole together but it just does not fit in the short bed by just a hair . What does 2m have to do with anything .


 
Posted : July 16, 2011 7:55 pm
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This one says "6 feet", don't know if that is correct or not (maybe they rounded?)

But it's probably because the rest of the world, geodisists, the NGS, etc, use meters. American Surveyor are small market compared to the others.

http://www.engineersupply.com/cst-berger-aluminum-gps-rover-rod-69-107.aspx


 
Posted : July 16, 2011 8:04 pm
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I've got 6 of the Crain Alumalite 2 Meter fixed height poles, numbered the tops and bottoms out of the box brand new as matched pairs. The problem with any of the two piece poles is they tend to get a lot of "run out" i.e. like a warped billiards cue stick.
What I've done to try and keep them "true" is to haul them in the 2 pieces---but here is the ticket---go to your local dollar store etc. and get one of those foam "pool noodles" that the kids play with in a swimming pool, cut down the length of it with a sharp razor blade and then cut it into 6 or 8 inch sections and fit a couple of them to each section of the pole. It gives them a bit of vibration protection riding in the survey rig.


 
Posted : July 16, 2011 8:16 pm
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I just did an OPUS today, NGS wanted the height in meters. We are the only country that uses Feet. 2 meters is about 6 and a half feet, but not quite. why don't you drill a hole in the tailgate to make up the 2 inches that it is too long by. or put the rod in at an angle.


 
Posted : July 16, 2011 8:21 pm
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We had the problem of the pole not fitting into our survey truck box. We were on a construction site and there was a lot of in and out of the truck. Our work-around was just to screw the foot off each time we put the rod into the box. After a time it just became part of the process.


 
Posted : July 16, 2011 8:51 pm

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We used to have the same problem with fitting the fixed height rods in the truck. We moved to the Seco 2m collapsible rover rod. It also works better with the SECO door mount.
2-Meter Carbon Fiber Snap-Lock Rover Rod


 
Posted : July 16, 2011 9:32 pm
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This is exactly what we use for all of our crews. Works great and way better than the 2 pole setup.


 
Posted : July 16, 2011 10:16 pm
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I use the Seco 2 meter collapsable rod as well. It is great.


 
Posted : July 17, 2011 5:28 am
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Howdy,

The reason for the two-meter height above ground is related to multi-path and tropospheric effects. The height allows multi-path to be more easily identified by hardware and software as well as allowing better modeling of tropospheric effects which could be mis-treated as multi-path and the inverse.

There are a number of papers addressing the issue accessible through Internet search.

Cheers,

DMM


 
Posted : July 17, 2011 8:08 am
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most of the DC software stores the height in meters. If you put in feet it'll convert it behind the scenes.


 
Posted : July 17, 2011 9:02 am

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> but it just does not fit in the short bed by just a hair .

Sounds like a good excuse to buy a bigger truck!


 
Posted : July 17, 2011 9:20 am
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Here is the finished box . I made a clip holder to haul the prism poles around the job with out breaking them down . When jobs done then they go back into the pvc . even have room to put the instruments on the side of the box.


 
Posted : July 17, 2011 10:49 am
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Is pole #1 ~ 0.04' short?

😉


 
Posted : July 17, 2011 11:44 am
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> This is exactly what we use for all of our crews. Works great and way better than the 2 pole setup.

+1


 
Posted : July 17, 2011 8:08 pm
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SECO makes a quick release adapter for your 2M poles. They have become quite popular with our clients. Quick Release Adapter for Rover Rods


 
Posted : July 26, 2011 10:40 am

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since i cant see the bottom of the rods I cant say for sure but if all the rod bottoms are level the tops are different heights.....or look that way in the pic :0


 
Posted : July 27, 2011 4:37 am