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I have have a client that just found out his walk in basement is 3.5' under the BFE. He is asking if its possible to construct a berm above the BFE around the walkout area and then try for the LOMAF. I've never had to try this and I don't want to advise the client to spend the money to bring in the fill if FEMA has a problem with it. Anybody have any experience with this? Will FEMA accept the berm to to pull the building out of the floodplain? Thanks for any advice.

Mike


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 11:33 am
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You should call FEMA and check, but I have been told that if you can prove that there is land that prevents floodwater from reaching a LAG below the BFE you can get a LOMA. Call a map specialist. They are generally very helpful with how to go about these things.


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 11:42 am
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Ever heard of a "No Rise" certificate. That's what you need when you start asking permission to do things in a flood plain. These must be signed by a licensed engineer as there is a determination to be made as to how any construction within the flood plain will impact the remainder of the flood plain. The first one of these I filled out was for a case where a county was going to be mining gravel out of the bottom of a river. Pretty obvious that they were increasing local storage instead of doing something that would raise the water level. Nevertheless, I had to fill out a "No Rise" certificate stating the obvious.

In your case, this could be a big no no if this falls within the delineated floodway and not just in the fringe.

I worked on a project on an island and the landowner wanted to install an eight-foot high concrete wall around the house, yet still be able to drive over the top as he was too old and feeble to walk up and down a steep embankment like the driveway that would have been required. Said he would put a six inch drain pipe in the bottom of the wall to get the water out. Asked him how long he could tread water. Seriously, a couple of years later the river flooded again and was up to the eaves on his house.


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 11:54 am
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I am not sure about Cow's suggestion as coastal flood plain does not have the same compensatory storage issues.

I have had success using the CLOMR-F followed with the LOMR-F. While the Conditional LOMR-F is not absolute, it gives some assurance that the final proposal will bring the building out of the flood plain.


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 12:08 pm
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Thank you, I didn't think of that. He would be filling in the floodplain. I'll have check with the County on this as well.
Thanks.


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 12:10 pm

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I had a recent project with some similarity, in that a client had a home which was behind an existing berm. Going through the regulatory process, what we came up with is 2 fold, one is that the berm has to qualify as a levee. In our case, it didn't qualify as it didn't have some important elements of levee construction.
The other is a hydraulic study is necessary showing that the area removed from flood storage did not cause an objectional increase in flood level in the remaining flooded area.


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 2:40 pm
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I agree with Clearcut. It will be seen as both fill and a levee.


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 5:58 pm
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Thanks guys. Found out that the County wont let them fill in the floodplain anyway. that's a 3K suck for these folks.


 
Posted : February 25, 2014 10:38 pm