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 Norm
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Hey Ridge
I would rebuild enough of the original monuments to challenge proof the kids boundaries. You could make a courtesy call to the owners of the marks you rebuilt and explain to them the subdivision has rotting monuments and that you are only rebuilding the ones needed for your kids property. Word may get around that there is a surveyor that could rebuild the marks before they disappear forever.

 
Posted : July 26, 2016 5:22 pm
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linebender, post: 382723, member: 449 wrote: I would rebuild enough of the original monuments to challenge proof the kids boundaries.

That is one of the most important reasons to perpetuate the evidence upon which one's client's boundaries depend. Presumably, none of the disintegrating hubs that Leon has found have a neon sign reading "original corner" that lights up on approach. It's the pattern of other similarly old hubs across the subdivision that is evidence of that.

This is a case where preserving boundary evidence on other properties also materially benefits one's clients.

I can think of an extreme example of a subdivision in Austin known as "Travis Heights" that was laid out in the second decade of the 20th century by a surveyor who marked all of the corners with white-painted pine stakes. Ten or fifteen years later, there wasn't much of many of them left, but a local surveyor made a systematic search and replaced quite a number with pipes or Ford axles that remain in place to this day. His replacements ultimately make many lots locatable that otherwise would just be the subject of on-going arguments.

 
Posted : July 26, 2016 5:41 pm
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linebender, post: 382723, member: 449 wrote: Hey Ridge
I would rebuild enough of the original monuments to challenge proof the kids boundaries. You could make a courtesy call to the owners of the marks you rebuilt and explain to them the subdivision has rotting monuments and that you are only rebuilding the ones needed for your kids property. Word may get around that there is a surveyor that could rebuild the marks before they disappear forever.

I totally understand what you are saying. My experience is that casual owners are not so much interested when it will cost them some money. Maybe if a bad lawsuit in the neighborhood had stirred up a hornets nest but lacking that they will just leave it be.

The more worst problem is the county. The county will not and has not spent any money other than grants from the state or feds to maintain the PLSS for about 80 years now. Then a lot of the grant money they did spend went to the lowest bid and some worthless mostly by the seat of the pants proportioning that ignored real evidence. So what money that was spent made things worse other than better. I mostly get treated like I don't know anything about boundaries. I don't even dream of getting any respect.

Ridge has mellowed a bit. Still won't back down but try my best to stay out of big fights. Doing so has given me part of my life (time) back.

The old wild west times and gun fights wouldn't be allowed on this site. Peace doesn't have very good ratings and the traffic is way down. Probably a good thing for my health though.

How's the not so little deed doing?

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 10:10 am
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You could go door to door offering to sell surveys to neighbors at discount because you are there. Kills two birds w/ one stone by setting extra monuments in the neighborhood and recouping some costs from your kids free survey. If not, and you're worried about restoring hubs at neighbors corners without permission, just tie the old hubs in, set some semi-permanent random control in the neighborhood and report it all on the map.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 10:39 am
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